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RE: المشكلة مع الله.
لا ارغب بالتطفل على هذا الشريط الغني , ولكنني احببت توضيح شيء مهم ..
اقتباس:أنت تتحدث عن فكرة هي الله كما لو كانت مادة ، و كما لو كانت معروفة للكافة ، فغير المسلم لا يعرف إلها يسمى الله .
كلام سليم تماما ,مثلا : الكثير من الاديان والفلسفات الشرقية (الغنية بمحتواها والتي يسخر منها المسلمون عادة ) تتكلم عن كون بلا اله او كون يشكل
بمجموعه الكلي ارادة عليا (ليست آلهة شخصية بالضرورة كالطبيعه مثلا ) ولكنها واعيه بدرجة ما , حتى لالهه ان تواجدوا فهم يخضعون لقوانين الكون
الصارمة مثل غيرهم فتجد الالهة الهندية تتزاوج وتموت و تدور بها الحيوات بين اسفل واعلى كما تدور ببقية الكائنات , هذا الطرح ليس صحيح او علمي
بالضرورة لكنه يدل على ان جزء كبير من البشرية لم يحمل نفس الفكرة عن تشكل الكون والحياة كما نقلتها الاديان الابراهيمية ..
بالنسبة لدواكينز فحسب علمي هو لم يقل مطلقا انه واثق مئة بالمئة من عدم وجود اله , اذكر انه قال بكتابه لو شبهنا الالحاد بعدة درجات فهو نفسه
يقف على مكان ما قبل الالحاد الكلي او التام (سبع درجات كما اذكر) اي انه لم يقل ابدا بانه متاكد من عدم وجود اله ..
الامر ومافيه ان رواية الاديان البشرية عن الطبيعة و العلم والاخلاق لا تتفق ولا حتى من قريب مع المنطق والعلوم الحديثة فنحن نرفض
الالهة الابراهيمية و بقية الديانات , وكل عقيدة تقيد فكر الفرد ولو بشعره لانها صناعة بشرية مئة بالمئة وهذا ما نحن متاكدين منه تماما ..
ليس عندي مشكلة مع وجود الله , لكنني متيقن انه ليس الهك او اشباهه , اذكر ان الحملة الاعلانية التي اطلقها داوكينز وبقية
اللادينيين بالعالم الغربي ردا على حملات مسيحية مماثلة قد تبنت شعار :
"There’s probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life."

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المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 01-20-2010, 03:57 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة 4025 - 01-20-2010, 10:06 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة Egyptian Humanist - 01-23-2010, 11:31 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 01-20-2010, 09:59 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة أندروبوف - 01-21-2010, 12:16 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 01-21-2010, 04:20 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة 4025 - 01-21-2010, 01:24 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 01-21-2010, 05:19 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 01-24-2010, 01:38 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة مجدي نصر - 01-24-2010, 08:47 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 01-25-2010, 04:07 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة مجدي نصر - 01-26-2010, 12:56 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بنى آدم - 01-26-2010, 02:28 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 01-27-2010, 05:08 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 01-28-2010, 09:54 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 01-28-2010, 11:32 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة سهيل - 01-29-2010, 04:38 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 01-29-2010, 03:10 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 01-30-2010, 01:41 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 01-30-2010, 03:45 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة thunder75 - 01-30-2010, 04:10 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 01-30-2010, 04:53 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 02-01-2010, 12:03 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 02-03-2010, 06:09 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 02-07-2010, 01:45 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 02-11-2010, 12:33 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 02-13-2010, 12:28 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 02-14-2010, 02:20 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 02-14-2010, 05:54 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 02-20-2010, 03:11 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 03-02-2010, 03:48 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 03-03-2010, 02:34 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 03-14-2010, 05:59 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة إبراهيم - 03-15-2010, 10:03 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 03-19-2010, 10:05 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة إبراهيم - 03-20-2010, 01:34 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 03-20-2010, 04:35 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة إبراهيم - 03-20-2010, 05:54 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة إبراهيم - 03-20-2010, 04:27 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة أسامة مطر - 03-20-2010, 05:47 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 03-21-2010, 01:03 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة إبراهيم - 03-22-2010, 03:27 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة إبراهيم - 03-28-2010, 12:56 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 03-29-2010, 02:09 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة إبراهيم - 03-29-2010, 06:03 AM,
الرد على: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة jafar_ali60 - 03-29-2010, 08:01 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 03-29-2010, 09:57 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 04-21-2010, 05:21 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة على نور الله - 04-21-2010, 02:15 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 04-21-2010, 05:26 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة على نور الله - 04-21-2010, 05:47 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 04-22-2010, 01:56 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة the special one - 04-22-2010, 03:52 AM
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 04-22-2010, 10:43 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة على نور الله - 04-22-2010, 06:37 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 04-26-2010, 04:21 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 04-26-2010, 05:56 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة على نور الله - 04-26-2010, 09:44 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 04-28-2010, 02:44 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 04-28-2010, 04:05 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة على نور الله - 04-28-2010, 02:42 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة عاشق الكلمه - 05-01-2010, 12:38 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 05-02-2010, 06:47 AM,
الرد على: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 09-26-2010, 10:36 AM,
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RE: الرد على: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة thunder75 - 10-16-2010, 04:39 PM,
RE: الرد على: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 10-16-2010, 09:36 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 10-08-2010, 05:48 PM,
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RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 10-10-2010, 08:12 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 10-13-2010, 01:57 AM,
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RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 10-16-2010, 04:01 PM,
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الرد على: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة jafar_ali60 - 10-17-2010, 01:21 AM,
RE: الرد على: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 10-18-2010, 02:58 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة thunder75 - 10-17-2010, 12:16 PM,
الرد على: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 10-18-2010, 12:33 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 10-20-2010, 02:10 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة thunder75 - 10-21-2010, 01:04 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 10-23-2010, 02:06 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 10-21-2010, 02:52 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة thunder75 - 10-23-2010, 03:36 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 10-23-2010, 05:52 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 10-23-2010, 06:32 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 10-23-2010, 06:51 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 10-23-2010, 09:45 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 10-24-2010, 02:53 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 10-24-2010, 03:04 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 10-25-2010, 02:41 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 10-25-2010, 11:36 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 10-26-2010, 02:17 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 10-27-2010, 10:03 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 10-29-2010, 03:22 AM,
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RE: الرد على: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 10-30-2010, 01:25 AM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة thunder75 - 10-30-2010, 01:47 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 10-30-2010, 03:48 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة سهيل - 10-30-2010, 02:29 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة بهجت - 11-01-2010, 08:39 PM,
RE: المشكلة مع الله. - بواسطة سهيل - 11-01-2010, 11:46 PM,
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