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أفلام الحرية و الثورة و الإنسان .
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RE: أفلام الحرية و الثورة و الإنسان .
(06-26-2010, 01:48 AM)بهجت كتب:  
(06-25-2010, 03:06 PM)شهاب الدمشقي كتب:  فيلمان مثيران للجدل:

Schindler's List

الفيلم من اناتج 1993 ومن اخراج عبقري السينما ستيفن سبيلبرغ .. وهو مبني على كتاب يروي قصة صناعي الماني نازي اسمه اوسكار شندلر استفاد من ظروف صعود الحزب النازي في استغلال اليهود في مصانعه، وانتهى به المطاف إلى التعاطف مع مأساتهم ومن ثم انقاذ مجموعة من اليهود عرفت باسم يهود شندلر ..

الفلم أثار جدلاً سياسيا كبيرا (منع في بعض الدول العربية) ، وهو اجمالا من الافلام التي تكرر الصورة النمطية لهولوكوست اليهود في الحقبة النازية ..

من المؤكد أن للفلام قراءات سياسية مختلفة ومتناقضة .. ولكن فنياً لا نملك سوى التسليم بعبقرية هذا الفلم وابداعه الفني، وهو برأيي من أفضل ما قدم سبيلبرغ فنيا وتقينا (تم تصوير الفلم بالأسود والأبيض باستثناء مشهد طفلة صغيرة ظهرت وهي ترتدي معطفاً أحمر اللون) ..

أما الموسيقا التصويرية فكانت للفنان المبدع john williams وهي موسيقا في غاية الرقة والعذوبة ..

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عزيزي شهاب .New97
لن نختلف حول القيمة الفنية لفلم قائمة شندلر " Schindler's List " ، فهو ربما يكون أحد أهم 10 أفلام في تاريخ السينما في العالم ، و بالطبع لا خلاف أيضا حول أهمية المخرج " ستيفن سبيلبرج Steven Spielberg" ، الذي يعتبر من أهم المخرجين في تاريخ السينما و أغناهم أيضا ( 3 مليار دولار ) . ينتمي الفلم إلى سلسلة أفلام الهولوكوست كما تفضلت ، و هو بالتالي يصب لصالح صورة اليهود في العالم ، و أيضا لصالح إسرائيل . هذه حقيقة يجب مواجهتها ، نجاح إسرائيل في توظيف قضية تاريخية عادلة لصالح واقع سياسي مجحف .
المشكلة كما نرى ثقافية و سياسية ، لهذا لا نجيد التعامل معها كأي قضية سياسية أو ثقافية . علينا من وجهة نظري ألا نحيل صراعنا مع إسرائيل إلى تعاطف مع النازيين ،أو تبرير المحارق النازية (الهولوكوست ) كما فعل أحمدي نجاد ، فهذه حماقة تجعل عقدة الهولوكوست تعمل ضد الفلسطينيين بلا مبرر . أيضا يجب أن يكون واضحا لنا و للآخرين ألا علاقة لنا من قريب أو بعيد بتلك القضية ، فهي إفراز للحضارة الغربية العنصرية في جزء هام من تاريخها ، هذا الموقف المنطقي أعلنه جاك شيراك في مؤتمر دولي كان يعالج قضية الهولوكوست ( المؤتمر الإسلامى اليهودى للاعتراف بالهولوكوست) في باريس 28 مارس 2009. المشاركة في عقد هذا المؤتمر أيضا موقف " أهبل " ، منكر الهولوكست و المعتذر عنه كلاهما مخطأ لأنه يقبل ما يسمى " تغيير الموضوع " أي نرفع ملف القضية الفلسطينية الملحة ، لنضع قضية الهولوكوست التي لا نعرف عنها الكثير ولا تعنينا في شيء !. الطرفان يتميزان بالحماقة التي تجعل الإنسان يرقص على نغمة ليس عازفها . الإنسان ببساطة غير مطالب بالتبرؤ من كل الجرائم في العالم حتى تلك التي تتم في زمن و مكان آخر .
على المستوى الشخصي تعاطفت للغاية مع الضحايا اليهود في الفلم ، كما أتعاطف مع ضحايا العنصرية في كل مكان و زمان ،و لكن ليس بالضرورة أن نرتب نتائجا سياسية على مشاعرنا ، فتعاطفي مع الهنود الحمر لا يعني أني أرى ضرورة أن يرحل الأوربيون و الأفارقة عن أمريكا ،و تعاطفي مع يهود ألمانيا لا يعني تبرئة يهود إسرائيل من جرائم هي هولوكوست جديد .
كثيرا ما أرى الثقافة المعاصرة أشبه بمائدة أعدت مسبقا ،و علينا أن نختار مما هو متاح ، لا يمكننا أن نطلب شيئا يلائمنا طالما لم نشترك في إعداد تلك المائدة . المشكلة أننا لا نفكر في أن ندخل المطبخ و أن نشمر عن سواعدنا . نحن دائما ما نشكو ، ثم نهيل التراب على المائدة ، و نتركها لسندوتش فلافل على ناصية حارة عشوائية .

اتفق معك تماما معك عزيزي بهجت .. وتأكيدي على جدلية هذا الفلم منطلقه الأساسي هو حرصي على ألا يتحول هذا الشريط إلى جدل سياسي ..

أعتقد أن فيلم قائمة شندلر قد ظُلم في الإعلام العربي السينمائي لأنه تعامل معه من خلال محتواه (وبلا شك فإن محتواه مثير للجدل) ولكن حتما للتعاطي الفني معه شأن آخر ..

خالص التحية ..
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