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هل كان اليهود ينتظرون نبي عظيم بعد موسى؟
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[QUOTE]ما أقصده هو نريد إثبات
وما هو الاثبات الذي تريده؟

لقد استشهدت بتفسير كتبه مسيحيين، ويقول ان اليهود كانوا يسألون عن نبي آخر وليس عن المسيح، وهو النبي الذي ذكره موسى في سفر التثنيه. وهذا النبي على ما فهم اليهود في ذلك الوقت هو نبي يختلف عن المسيح. لذا كان السئوال عن ثلاث شخصيات: المسيح، إلياس، النبي!

وهذا هو المرجع مرة أخرى:

The 1599 Geneva Study Bible
John 1:21
http://bible.crosswalk.com/Commentaries/Ge...apter=1#Joh1_21

وكذلك الاية 14 من الباب السادس، والاية 40 من الباب السابع من يوحنا، تتحدثان عن نفس النبي. والمرجع لهذه الايات هو نبؤة موسى في سفر التثنية. وبامكانك ان تتحقق من هذه النقطة في الروابط التاليه:

John Gill's Exposition of the Bible
John 6:14
http://bible.crosswalk.com/Commentaries/Gi...pter=6&verse=14

John Gill's Exposition of the Bible
John 7:40
http://bible.crosswalk.com/Commentaries/Gi...pter=7&verse=40

اذن المقصود بالنبي الذي ورد ذكره في ثلاثة مواضع في انجيل يوحنا لم يكن المسيح. وعلى ضوء العلامات التي رآها اليهود من علامات النبي، وجدناها تنطبق على النبي محمد. ونسأل هل هذه مصادفه؟

وبعد ذلك استشهدت بالباب 54 من اشعيا. ولم آتي بهذا الاستشهاد من عندي، فقد قال الذين كتبوا صحف البحر الميت ان هذا الباب ينطبق على النبي الذي تحدث عنه موسى. الذين كتبوا هذه الصحف لم يقرأوا او يسمعوا عن محمد (ص)، وقد ماتوا بمائة سنة قبل الميلاد. وجدنا هذا الباب لا ينطبق الا على مكة. بامكانك ان تجادل في هذه النقطة. حتى لو قلت ان المقصود ليس بمكة المكرمه، فبمجرد وصول المسألة الى نقطة جدالية، فهذا شيئ خطير. هل هي مصادفة ان يصل الموضوع الى هذا الحد؟

ولكن: "ولا تلبسوا الحق بالباطل وتكتموا الحق وأنتم تعلمون" (البقرة 42)

اشعيا 54:1 "ترنمي أيتها العاقر التي لم تلد..." -- والسبب: "لان ابناء المهجورة [هاجر] أكثر من ابناء ذات الزوج [ساره]"

والى الان نحن لم نخرج من استنتاجات اليهود القدماء، ومن كتب صحف البحر الميت. هم نسبوا هذه الاشياء الى النبي الذي تحدث عنه موسى، فوجدناها تنطبق على النبي محمد!

وتقول انك تريد اثبات ان هذا النبي هو محمد. تطابق المواصفات يا سيدي هو الاثبات.

04-30-2005, 06:56 PM
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