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للأن لايوجد دليل تاريخي واحد - وأعني بكلمة دليل تاريخي دليل مادي أو منطقي وليس دليل مستمد من كتبكم المقدسة - علي قصة دخول اليهود مصر وتعرضهم للإضطهاد والضربات العشر وخروجهم من مصر بعد سرقتهم للمصريين بأمر من إلههم
هل يملك أحد هذا الدليل:?:

طبعا سيادتك لا تعرف سوى لغة العقل و المنطق و هو شئ جميل و احترمه فيك بشدة , لقد تقدم أخونا الفاضل نيومان برابط يشير الى رسومات مقابر بني حسن و رفضتها سيادتك لأنها من موقع مسيحي
و هذا حقك و لكن يهيئ لا تستطيع ان ترفض صور كاملة للعديد من الرسومات الجدارية و الأحجار التي تؤكد قصة العبرانيين بمصر , أليك الأدلة .

صورة رحلة العبرانيين لمصر محملين بالهدايا في مقابر بني حسن و يرجع تاريخها لعام 1890 قبل الميلاد
و هي نفس الصورة التي أشار أليها أخونا الحبيب نيومان .

Egyptian Beni Hasan Tomb Painting
c. 1890 B.C. – Color Mural 8 Feet Long

http://www.greatcommission.com/BiblicalArc...s/slide1265.htm

أنظر عزيزي للصورة جيدا

http://www.katapi.org.uk/BAndS/beniHasan.htm


و الآن الدليل الآخر رسائل تل العمارنة ( حوالي 1370 ق . م )

تلك الرسائل تتحدث عن حرب الفرعون المصري مع
( العابيرو ) في أشارة واضحة للعبرانيين .


http://www.greatcommission.com/BiblicalArc...s/slide1259.htm


The el-Amarna letters, a collection of correspondence between various states and Egypt, were found in the remains of the ancient city of Akhetaten, c. 1370 BCE. Some of the documents belong to the time of Amenhotep III, while others are from the time of Akhenaten. Lab'aya is the troublesome king who is apparently from Shechem. Lab'aya, it seems, is more interested in personal aggrandizement than doing the bidding of the king his lord, the pharaoh of Egypt. He captures cities that don't belong to him and has dealings with the "enemy" (the habiru), that most believe are the Hebrews.

و هذه أيضا

http://www.greatcommission.com/BiblicalArc...s/slide1258.htm


و هذه رسالة من ملك شاليم ( أورشليم ) يشتكي فيها لمللك مصر من عدم معاونته له في حربه ضد العبرانيين ( العابيرو ) الذين نزحوا من عنده .

http://www.greatcommission.com/BiblicalArc...s/slide1260.htm

Abdi-Hiba of Jerusalem to the king, No. 1 EA#285 vd(31): this letter and perhaps also #291 were written by Abdi-Hiba residing in Jerusalem to the king of Egypt. Complains that he has no archery protection from his enemies (Eenhamu of the habiru), also states he was put in his office in Jerusalem not because of his parents but by the king, states he can't leave to visit the king because of the enemies; mentions an official person of Eenhamu, [Addai]a; mentions archers, deputy;

http://www.greatcommission.com/BiblicalArc...s/slide1261.htm

No. 2 - EA#286 fc(64): feels he is being slandered by others before the king; mentions the deputy, a scribe, the Habiru, archers, deputies and regents, a garrison; mentions Eenhamu, Egypt; mentions Ilimilku, hostility against him; No. 3 - EA#287 fc(78): mentions copper; mentions cities of Kelti (Keilah or Ekron?), [G]azri (Gezer?), Asqaluna (Ashkelon?), Lakisi (Lachish?) and Urusalim (Jerusalem); mentions archers; refers to his mother and father; mentions Milkili, sons of Labaja this way, `Verily, this deed is the deed of Milkili and the deed of the sons of Labaya which have given the land of the king to the Habiru.'; mentions the Kasi people, the deputies, crimes committed, horses, the deputy of the king Pauru, [A]d(d)aja, the garrison of officers, prisoners, bearers, caravans; mentions the place of Ialuna, that he was almost killed in his house;


حجر ( مرنبتاح ) و الموجودة حاليا بالمتحف المصري بميدان التحرير بالقاهرة

يذكر بكل وضح العبرانيين في كنعان بعد خروجهم من مصر .

http://www.greatcommission.com/BiblicalArc...s/slide1263.htm

The Stela of Merneptah – Thebes, Egypt
c. 1210 BC - Poetic Eulogy to Pharaoh Merneptah

Mentions the Israelites in Canaan •after the Exodus from Egypt: • •The princes are prostrate saying: "Shalom!" •Not one of the Nine Bows lifts his head: •Tjehenu is vanquished, Khatti at peace, •Canaan is captive with all woe. •Ashkelon is conquered, Gezer seized, •Yanoam made nonexistent; •Israel is wasted, bare of seed, •Khor is become a widow for Egypt. •All who roamed have been subdued •By the King of Upper and Lower Egypt, Banere-meramun, •Son of Re, Merneptah, Content with Maat, •Given life like Re every day.

حجر مرنبتاح مرة أخرى

http://www.greatcommission.com/BiblicalArc...s/slide1264.htm

A popular theory among Biblical scholars today is that Israel emerged from peoples indigenous to Canaan in the mid 12th century BC. If this is true, then Biblical history and chronology prior to ca. 1150 BC would have to be jettisoned. Proponents of the "12th century emergence theory" maintain that the Israelites did not come into Canaan from outside to conquer the land around 1400 BC, as the Bible indicates. The emergence scenario would also reject the historicity of the Wilderness Wanderings, Exodus, Egyptian Sojourn and the Patriarchal narratives. However, if Israel were an established entity in Canaan already in 1210 BC, as the Merneptah Stela implies, then the 12th century emergence theory would be refuted (Bimson 1991). If Israel was well established by the end of the 13th century, it could not have come into being in the middle of the next century. As a result, the Merneptah Stela has been meticulously scrutinized and analyzed by scholars, perhaps more so than any text outside the Bible. They are out to determine what it "really" says, not that they would want to force any preconceived notions on the text! Michael G. Hasel, a doctoral candidate at the University of Arizona, has recently reviewed the various interpretations concerning the reference to Israel in the stela. Furthermore, he has done an in-depth linguistic study to determine as far as possible the intended meaning of text.

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