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هل المسيح " أبن الله " ؟ وما الفرق بينه وبين بقية من دعوا بأبناء الله ؟

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عندما أستشهد القديس بولس بقوله \" أنت ابني أن اليوم ولدتك \" كان يقارن بين المسيح والملائكة وفي هذه المقارنة.
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صَائِراً أَعْظَمَ مِنَ الْمَلاَئِكَةِ بِمِقْدَارِ مَا وَرِثَ اسْماً أَفْضَلَ مِنْهُمْ. لأَنَّهُ لِمَنْ مِنَ الْمَلاَئِكَةِ قَالَ قَطُّ: «أَنْتَ ابْنِي أَنَا الْيَوْمَ وَلَدْتُكَ»؟ وَأَيْضاً: «أَنَا أَكُونُ لَهُ أَباً وَهُوَ يَكُونُ لِيَ ابْناً»؟ وَأَيْضاً مَتَى أَدْخَلَ الْبِكْرَ إِلَى الْعَالَمِ يَقُولُ: «وَلْتَسْجُدْ لَهُ كُلُّ مَلاَئِكَةِ اللهِ». (عب 1: 4 – 6)

هنا مقارنة بين مخلوقات (الملائكة) ومخلوق (المسيح) وإلا فلا مجال للمقارنة بين كائنات خلقها الله مع الله نفسه. وللكن لماذا فضل الله هنا المسيح على الملائكة؟ القديس بولس يورد الأسباب التي وقعت وقعت في العهد القديم والتي تدل على الثبات وعدم التغير. أي أن هذا أمر ثابت عند الله حتى قبل العهد القديم. ولكننا نصاب بصدمة عندما نقرأ:

وَضَعْتَهُ قَلِيلاً عَنِ الْمَلاَئِكَةِ. بِمَجْدٍ وَكَرَامَةٍ كَلَّلْتَهُ، وَأَقَمْتَهُ عَلَى أَعْمَالِ يَدَيْكَ. (عب 2: 7)

وعبارة " وَأَقَمْتَهُ عَلَى أَعْمَالِ يَدَيْكَ" هي إضافة لاحقة وغير موجودة بالنص الأصلي. ولذلك حذفتها النسخ الآتية:

You made him a little lower than the angels, yet you crowned him with glory and honor (ISV + EMTV + DIAGLOT + ESV + GWV

بينما تضعها بين قوسين مشيرة للشك فيها نسختي Darby و Rotherham.

وَلَكِنَّ الَّذِي وُضِعَ قَلِيلاً عَنِ الْمَلاَئِكَةِ، يَسُوعَ، نَرَاهُ مُكَلَّلاً بِالْمَجْدِ وَالْكَرَامَةِ، مِنْ أَجْلِ أَلَمِ الْمَوْتِ. (عب 2: 9)

But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels (KJV

but we see Jesus, who was made some little inferior to angels on account of the suffering of death (Darby

فالقديس بولس يقرر في بداية رسالته للعبرانيين (1: 1- 4) أن المسيح أفضل من الملائكة، ثم يفاجئنا في الإصحاح الثاني (2: 7، 9) أن المسيح قد وضعه الله في منزلة أقل من الملائكة بقليل. ويستخدم معه الفعل المبني للمجهول "وُضِعَ" was made (جُعِلَ)، فمن الذي وضعه وجعله أقل منزلة من الملائكة؟ ولكن في النهاية نقول أن تفضيل الله لأحد أنبيائه ورسله ولو على الخلق جميعًا لا يدل على أنه ابن الله حقيقةً إلا إذا وجدنا نصًّا صريحًا لا تعارضه نصوص أخر. هذه عقيدة ولابد أن تكون واضحة للعباد وضوح الشمس في يوم قائظ لأنهم محاسبون.

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