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اضواء حول الصحابي الجليل المغيرة ابن شعبة !!
على نور غير متصل
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اضواء حول الصحابي الجليل المغيرة ابن شعبة !!
تحية للزميل البابلى:
اما بعد :
طبعا لا الومك على هذا الفهم الخاطء ايها الزميل لان الامر دقيق جدا .
بالنسبة للمؤلفة قلوبهم
اود اولا ان اسالك سؤالا و تجيبنى من رؤيتك الشخصية كانسان و ايضا راى الدين المسيحى .
لو انك اصطدمت مع قوم يحاربون المسيحية و يريدون قتل المسيحيين و هؤلاء زعيمهم يحب المال
و لا مبدا له .
و المسيحيون قادرون على ابادة هذا الزعيم و قومه جميعا الذين يتعصبون لزعيمهم .
و لا تستطيع التفريق من قومه من الصالح من الطالح فى لحظات القتال .
السؤال:
لو استطعت تجنب ايقاع مذبحة بقوم هذا الرزعيم بان تدفع له مالا و تعطيه بعض التقدير فتوقف شره و ترفع القتل عن الناس التى تقف وراءه
فهل ترى ان القتل اولى ام دفع مبلغ من المال تصون به دماء جنودك و رجالك لانه ايضا بانتظارك معارك اشد و اقوى كما تصون دماء رجاله الذين هم ضعيفى الايمان و لكن هو يسيطر على جهلهم و يسوقهم لتصرفات متعصبة ؟؟؟
انت قادر على الابادة
و انت قادر على تفادى الابادة و الدم بالمال
فايهما تختار كانسان اولا
و كمسيحى متدين ثانيا

ثانيا:
اود ان اوضح ان الرسول الاعظم لم يعط المؤلفة قلوبهم فى لحظة ضعف منه بل و هو فى موقف القوة و السيطرة و رقابهم بين يديه .
مما يدل انه فقط اراد تفادى مقاوتهم الانتحارية التى قد تصدر عن كراهيتهم فياذون قومهم .
ثالثا:
من اولا و ثانيا نجد ان الرسول الاعظم كان يتفادى اراقة الدماء بكل ما وسعه من جهد و يختار تاليف القلوب عن تهييجها و اثارة البغضاء حقنا لدماء قوم رقابهم صارت عند حد سيوف تنتظر اشارة من الرسول الاعظم لتقطع و لكنه عليه السلام يتفادى حقن الدماء و يطلقهم و ليس ذلك فقط بل و يهديهم و يتالف قلوبهم لانه يبغى السلام من حرب لم يبداها و لم يرد ان يخوضها الا انهم اضطروه لها .
رابعا :
المسيح عليه السلام غسل قدمى يهوذا الذى خانه و هو يعلم انه سيخونه .
و لكنه غسل قدميه لاثبات الحجة كاملة على يهوذا الخائن بان المسيح عليه السلام بالغ فى اكرامه و لم يدع له مجالا ليتحامل عليه او ليبغضه فتكون حجته عند الله واضحة بينه و ليس للخائن حجة .
الرسول الاعظم اطلق سراحهم و دفع لهم اموالا و اهداهم و الف قلوبهم و اعطاهم الامان و يعلم انهم يضمرون الخيانة اعنى بعضهم
فقاموا بقتل الحسين عليه السلام و عملوا على تدمير دين الاسلام و قتل اهل بيته و ذريته .
و قد قامت الحجة عليهم كاملة
الرسول الاعظم سالمهم و امنهم و الف قلوبهم و اعطاهم من الصدقات فلم يبق لهم عذر للاصرار على محاربته و الغدر به و ذريته و الائمة من بعده الا البغض لله و الابتعاد عن الحق .

خامسا:
الرشوة تكون منحة على باطل اى لتحقيق باطل
و لكن الهدف من تاليف القلوب كان هدف سامى و هو حقن الدماء فهذه ليست رشوة
و لو كانت الرشوة تحقن الدماء فمرحبا بالرشوة .

سادسا:
الرشا بفتح الراء يا عزيزى لا تعنى الرشوة بل المحاباة
و المحاباة تعنى المظاهرة و المناصرة و الملاينة .
و لو رجعت الى راى الطبرى فهو ينكر وقف الصدقة للمؤلفة قلوبهم .
بالنسبة لمعنى الرشا بفتح الراء
تفضل راجع لسان العرب و القاموس المحيط .
و اخيرا :
كما بينا سابقا المغيرة بن شعبة لم يكن من المقربين من الرسول الاعظم
و ان اصررت انه من المقربين فهذا لا يعنى انه يحق له ان يفعل ما يشاء
فحتى ابن الرسول ان لم يعمل صالحا فهو ليس من المقربين فمعيار القربى هو التقوى و العمل الصالح .
اللهم صل على محمد و ال محمد
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07-24-2004, 10:36 AM
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