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تعليق على توقيع (( استشهادى المستقبل ))
اسمحوا لي بأن ادخل على الموضوع و اسلم على كافة الشباب الطيبة... :h:

عزيزي المقاتل الاحمر..للملحدين بعض النقاط المفهومة و المنطقية في نكران الادلة التي تسوقها الاديان في اثبات وجود الله...
الا انه:
1. ان الادلة التي يسوقها الملحدين[U] لنكران وجود الله (او الارادة العاقلة ان شئت) بذاتها غير منطقية و تنافي العقل نفسه و مليئة بالتناقضات و المستحيلات الرياضية... تماما كما افترضت انت ان عوامل التعرية هي التي صنعت الاهرامات..
اي انك كما تطالب استشهادي المستقبل بان يأتيك بدليل على وجود صانع, فانك عاجز و بدرجة اكبر بكثير عن فرض نظريتك البديلة و اقناعنا بها...
لك ان ترفض نظرية استشهادي المستقبل و تكتفي بالقول "لا ادري من صنع الاهرامات " فتكون بذلك (لا ادريا) و ليس ملحدا ..

الا انه لا تستطيع ان تكمل الطريق نحو الالحاد بدون ان تتعرض لنيران غزيرة هناك تطلقها عليك الحقائق العلمية و المنطقية في تلك الساحة المكشوفة...

2. ان ما بين يدينا من معرفة علمية و دلائل طبيعية تشير حتما الى وجود شيئ ما صمم ما يحدث.. (على الاقل).. و هذا الامر لا يستطيع نكرانه اي عالم... و لكن يتم التجاهل عن هذا الامر لاسباب ايديولوجية و تاريخية و اجتماعية بحتة..
و هذه الاسباب -على كل حال- تحتاجها العلوم لكي تتطور و تتقدم الا انها لا تستطيع ابدا ان تستعمل في مقارعة قوة و نطقية وجود ارادة مخططة و مصممة للكون... فانها ستنهار عندئذ عند اول مطب...

ملاحظة: عندما اقول "وجود ارادة عاقلة" لا اعني بها بالضرورة التدخل المباشر لتنظيم عمل الكون ثانية بثانية -كما يعترض الملحدون- فدراسة الكون علمتنا بان لكل شيئ اسبابه الطبيعية و لكن عند دراسة كل تلك الاسباب مجتمعة يتبين لنا ان هناك امر ما يتعدى تلك الاسباب...

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