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ابن العرب

صفة الكافر لا تتفق مع عمل الصالحات

قد كفر القران  من يقول ان المسيح هو الله


ما هو الدليل القرآني أن الكفر بالمعنى العقيدي (اي المعتقد) ينفي الاعمال الصالحة؟ (أنا لا أنفي وجوده و انما استفسر عنه).

منطقيا، الايمان باللـه او بالثالوث او بأي شيء هو مجرد رأي و معتقد ليس إلا، أما الأعمال الصالحة فهي تعريفا "أعمال" مثل اطعام الفقراء و محبة الاخرين و اعانة المرضى، الخ. فلو أحرق اللـه ابن العرب في جهنم الى الازل، فهذا يعني أن الإله حسب المفهوم الاسلامي هو إله يحرق الناس و يعاقبهم لمجرد اتخاذهم آراءا معينة.

مع أني أستهجن موضوع الثواب و العقاب الالهيين برمته لأسباب كثيرة، لكني أجد مسألة العقاب على الاراء و المعتقدات أمرا غريبا بشكل استثنائي.

يعني ابن العرب كما يقول هو انسان صالح، اذن هو يعتني بالاخرين و يحب الناس و يساعد المحتاجين و يخدم مجتمعه، الخ. و لكنه و عن كامل حسن النية و الصدق مع النفس، قارن بين الاسلام و المسيحية و وجد ان المسيحية هي الديانة الصحيحة. لو فرضنا مثلا ان الاسلام هو الدين الصحيح، فهنا مِن المسلمين مَن يقول ان اللـه سيحرق ابن العرب الى الابد.

أليس هذا تطرفا؟ يعني لو فرضنا ان "ثندر" مثلا عبقري و بسبب ذكائه توصل الى الحقيقة و هي ان الاسلام دين صحيح، و لكن ابن العرب يا حرام متوسط القدرات العقلية و أصدر حكما خاطئا، فهل هذا أمر يُحسب ضده؟ هل الإله الاسلامي خلق هذه الدنيا لتكون اختبار ذكاء و عقاب من يفشل فيه هو الجحيم الابدي؟؟
08-29-2005, 09:05 PM
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