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بحث في إثبات أنّ كاتب إنجيل مرقس مجهول
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بحث في إثبات أنّ كاتب إنجيل مرقس مجهول
الزميل العزيز العميد

لقد تجنيت على كثرا في تعليقثك على مداخلة الزميل اسحق

فقد أتهمنتني أني لا أفهم في الحديث أو الإسلاميات وهذا رأيك ولكني أقول لك أنني قرأت في الإسلام ربما أكثر مما قرأته أنت ولدي من المراجع التي قرأتها على مدى سنوات طويلة وكذلك البرامج ما يكفيني .

كما أني لم أعتد القص واللصق بل أكتب مما درسته بنفسي وبما يعلق بذاكرتي ثم أقوم بتوثيقه من المراجع الأصلية .

وعندما أعدت كتابة إنجيل يوحنا لم أعد نفس النصوص فحسب بل رددتك على محاولتك التشكيك فيها وأنت لم ترد !!
فلم أنقلها وحسب بل لأوضح أن محاولتك التشكيك فيها باطلة .
ولكنك للأسف تظن أنك أبطلت مفعولها ولذا لا فائدة من تكرار ذكرها !!
كلا يا عزيزي أنت حاولت التشكيك في صحتها ولكني علقت على محاولاتك هذه لأثبت لك أن ما تحاوله هو وهم وسراب .

وعندما أدخل بمثال إسلامي لتوضيح نقطة معينة تقول أني أخرج عن الموضوع وتحاول صرف القاريء عن هدفي الأصلي وتقول أني أحول الموضوع وهذا غير صحيح !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

وعلى سبيل المثال فأنت تحاول أبطال شهادة بابياس لأنه أخطأ في ذكر قصة موت يهوذا ، وقد حاولت أن أبين لك أن هذه المعايير تطبقها فقط فيما يخص المسيحية والكتاب المقدس ولكنها لا تطبقها على القرآن !!!
وقد أوردت لك على سبيل المثال موقف الصحابة وقت موت محمد وكيف أن عمر رفض أن يستمع لنبيه عندما قال " قربوا إلي بورقة وقلم لأكتب لكم كتابا لن تضلوا بعده " فرفض عمر وقال أنه يهزي " أن النبي قد غلبه الوجع " !!!
وعندما مات تركوه دون أن يغسلوه ويكفنوه وذهبوا للسقيفة ليحسموا أمر الخلافة ، فقد كانت الخلافة بالنسبة لهم أهم !!
وأنت تعلم أن محمد كان قد وضع الجيش تحت قيادة الفتى الصغير اسامة ، وكان على عمر وأبو بكر أن يكونوا تحت أمرته وطلب منهم الخروج معه في غزوته الذاهب إليها .
وكان قد غلبه الوجع فتصوروا أن قد شعر بدنوا أجله من تأثير السم الذي دسته له اليهودية ، وأنه يفسح الطريق لعلي فلتلكأوا في الخروج مع اسامة ، ومن ثم اسرعوا لحظة وفاته إلى السقيفة وحسموا الخلافة لصالح أبو بكر الذي أخذ ما كان محمد قد أعطاه لأبنته فاطمة ، وهي التي قال عنها " رضى فاطمة من رضاي " !! ومات كمدا بعد أبيها بستة أشهر وهي لا تكلم أبو بكر !!
ثم أتهم أهل البيت أبو بكر وبقية الصحابة وقالوا أنهم حذفوا من القرآن 11 ألف آية والباقي (6224 آية) حذفوا منه ما يسب الصحابة وما يمتدح آل البيت وأضافوا إليه ما ليس منه 00 الخ

وأنا أقول لك رجال بمثل هذه الأخلاق والتصرفات لا يمكن أن نثق في صحة ما ينقل عنهم سواء كان القرآن أو غيره !!
لماذ؟
لأن أحدهم على الأقل أتهم نبيه أنه يهزي ورفض أن يجعله يكتب هذا الكتاب الذي قال عنه أنهم لم يضلوا بعده !!!
فما مصلحته في ذلك؟
والثاني خالف نبيه فيما سبق أن أعطاه لأبنته ولم يأبه بخصامها له برغم وصية النبي عنها !!!
وكليهما تركا نبيهما دون أن أن يقوموا بما يجب نحوه وأهتموا بأمر الخلافة !!!
كما أنهما ومعهما عثمان أتهموا بتحريف القرآن من أئمة الشيعة !!!

فكيف تقبل ما جاء عنهم دون نقاش وحتى لا تقف لحظة لتفكر في هذا الأمر ، ثم تأتي لتحاول أبطال شهادة قديسين لم يشب حياتهم شائبة واحدة مما فعله الصحابة ؟؟؟؟!!!

ولأن كلامي هذا لا يرضيك فقد رحت تتهمنى بما أتهمتنى به ، سامحك الله ، بل وأقول مثلك حسبي الله ونعم الوكيل !!!!!

وتحاول أن تصور الأمر على أني أحاول إخراج الموضوع عن محتواه الأصلي وأني أهاجم القرآن والإسلام !!

بل والغريب أنك تتهمني بالقص واللصق الذي ليس هو أسلوبي أو منهجي ، وهو اسلوب كل زملائك في هذا النادي والذين لا هم لهم إلا القص واللزق من المواقع الإسلامية الذين تعتبرون أن كل ما هو مكتوب فيها هو الحق الذي حق غيره ، وهو من وجهة نظري مجرد حوار الطرشان !!!

عزيزي العميد لن أقول لك إلا ما قاله الرب يسوع المسيح :

" ولماذا تنظر القذى الذي في عين اخيك. واما الخشبة التي في عينك فلا تفطن لها. ام كيف تقول لأخيك دعني اخرج القذى من عينك وها الخشبة في عينك. يا مرائي اخرج اولا الخشبة من عينك. وحينئذ تبصر جيدا ان تخرج القذى من عين اخيك " (مت5 :3-5).

تحايتي ومحبتي

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