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لماذا يقولون نصراني و ليس مسيحي
اقتباس:  العميد   كتب/كتبت  


ومصطلح "النصارى" استخدموه هم أنفسهم قروناً طولة حتى القرن التاسع عشر ، وقبل هذا الزمن لم يكن مصطلح " المسيحية معروفاً ...
_______

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سيادة العميد

لااعتراض على الشطر الاول من كلامك ... اما الشطر الثاني فيبقى كلام لادليل عليه ... اما الدليل الذي ينقضه فنجده في سفر اعمال الرسل :

" ‎فحدث انهما اجتمعا في الكنيسة سنة كاملة وعلّما جمعا غفيرا ودعي التلاميذ مسيحيين في انطاكية اولا "

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وحتى الآن وهم يستخدمونه ، بل جعلوا لهم موقعاً سموه المتنصرين
موقع المتنصرين
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وانظر إلى هذا الرابط القبطي الذي ينقل هذا الخبر عن موقع نصراني ، يقولون متنصرين بلا حرج .

الحكومه المصريه تعلن الحرب على المتنصرين
http://www.amcoptic.com/news_2003/islam_6.htm

وراجع كتب الآباء الأقباط القدماء ( حيث أن الغالبية هنا من الأقباط ) الذين ألفوا باللغة العربية ( كساويرس ابن المقفع ) ، تجدهم لا يعرفون إلا مصطلح نصراني .

وانظر إلى مؤلفات يوحنا غريغوريوس ابن العبري ، وهو من أبرز علماء الأرثوذكس السريان في القرن الثالث عشر ، فتراه يستخدم فقط مصطلح "نصارى" ولا يعرف غيره .

وكذلك مؤلفات يحي بن عدي تراه لا يعرف إلا مصطلح نصارى ، ولن أطيل عليك ، بل أقول لك إرجع إلى جميع مؤلفات علماء النصرانية قبل القرن التاسع عشر فلن تجد أحداً منهم إلا ويستخدم مصطلح نصراني .

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استخدام هؤلاء للمصطلح " نصارى " لايعني بالتالي انهم لم يعرفوا غيره كما تدعي باطلا ، وانما هم يخاطبون مجتمع اسلامي متعصب تواجدوا ويتواجدون فيه ... هذا المجتمع لم يعرف سوى هذا المصطلح وأبه ان يعرف غيره ...


تحياتي


09-14-2005, 10:36 AM
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