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الحسن الهاشمي المختار غير متصل
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الانضمام: Jan 2005
مشاركة: #37
لماذا يقولون نصراني و ليس مسيحي
[quote] الختيار كتب/كتبت

و كتب الزميل الحسن الهاشمي المختار :

[QUOTE]تأبى الحكمة والعقل أن تطلق إسم النسب في العقيدة إلا إذا تشابه المشبه بالمشبه به

ما هذا يا عزيزي الهاشمي ؟؟؟

من أين تخترع هذه القواعد ؟؟؟

==================================

يا سيد الختيار : أنا أعني أن مقاييس الله النسبية أكثر دقة من مقاييس البشر، فالله تعالى يقول لنوح عن ابنه : إنه ليس من أهلك إنه عمل غير صالح. لو كان ابن نوح رجلا صالحا لأثبت له الأهلية.
إسم النسب يطلق لعلاقة بين المنسوب والمنسوب إليه ، قد تكون علاقة المكان ، يقال لساكن تونس : تونسي. وقد تكون علاقة عرق ، يقال لمن ينتسب إلى القومية العربية : عربي . وقد تكون علاقة فكر ، يقال
لمن يؤمن بفكر ماركس : ماركسي، ويقال لمن يؤمن بفكر جمال عبد الناصر : ناصري .
نأتي الآن إلى إسم النسب (مسيحي ). ما نوع العلاقة النسبية هنا؟
إنها علاقة (إيمان).
لو كنا نؤمن أن العقيدة التي كان يؤمن بها المسيح ويدعوإليها هي نفسها التي يسير عليها أتباعه لما كان هناك إشكال في تسمية أنفسهم ب
(المسيحيين) . لكننا نؤمن أن المسيح كان يدعو إلى عبادة الله وحده ولم يدع أنه إله ولم يقل بالثالوث ولم يدع إلى رهبانية ولم يزعم أنه سيصلب فداء للبشر. إذن فالعلاقة النسبية غير موجودة ، وبناء على هذا تعتبر تسمية الذين يؤمنون بالمسيح إلها ب (المسيحيين) تسمية خاطئة.
مثلا : إذا وجد لكارل ماركس حفيد يعيش في الولايات المتحدة لأمريكية يؤمن بالنظام الرأسمالي ويتبوأ منصبا رفيعا في الإدارة السياسية الأمريكية . هل تصح تسمية حفيد ماركس ب (ماركسي) وهو لا يؤمن بفكر جده ماركس !!؟
09-16-2005, 09:02 AM
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