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لماذا يقولون نصراني و ليس مسيحي
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم و الحمد لله رب العالمين ..

تحياتي للفاضل السرياني .. :97:

تقول عزيزي : جميل جدا ماتقوله ، لكن للاسف ليست الحال هكذا في جميع البلدان العربية وهذه التسمية لايوافق عليها الكثير من رجالات الدين الاسلامي ، كما توضح لنا من كلام اقتبسه زميلنا الختيار عن احدهم ... والسؤال هو ، لماذا يفرض علي اسم لاارتضيه انا لنفسي ؟



أقول بعون الله سبحانه و تعالى : لقد كان اعتراضك أن رجال الدين المسيحي كانوا يريدون أن يسموا أنفسهم مسيحيين و لكنهم اصتضموا برجال الدين الإسلامي ..

و أنا قلت أن في مصر مثلًا - و هي دولة إسلامية و معقل الأزهر الشريف - لا يجد المسيحيون حرجًا في هذه التسمية ..

فبماذا تفسر إذًا يا عزيزي عدم ورود الاسم في أي لسان عربي تقريبًا إلا في العصر الحديث ؟!

و إذا كان مانع المسيحيون كل تلك الفترة في تغيير الإسم هو رجال الدين .. ما الذي استجد تحديدًا لتكون لهم تلك الحرية في إختيار الإسم ؟؟؟!!!

ما الجديد الذي جعلهم يتخلون عن هذا الخوف .. ؟

يا عزيزي لم تكن هناك أي تشديدات .. فمعظم العلماء لا يجدون حرجًا أبدًا في تسمية النصراني بما يحب أن يسمى نفسه به ..

لأن الله سبحانه و تعالى سماهم كما سموا هم أنفسهم .. و لو كانوا يسمون أنفسهم غير ذلك لكانت تسميتهم مختلفة و الله سبحانه و تعالى أعلى و أعلم ..

و تقول أيضًا عزيزي : قد تكون محقا في هذا ، ولكننا نتسائل : هل ارتضى المسيحييون وقبلوا بتسمية " نصارى " ؟

أقول لك بعون الله سبحانه و تعالى : يبدوا أنك لم تفهم نقطتي عزيزي الفاضل .. فأنا أدلل بهذا أن المسيحيين أنفسهم أرتضوا بالفعل بتلك التسمية .. و قالوا عن أنفسهم أنهم نصارى ! ..

" الَّذِينَ قَالُواْ إِنَّا نَصَارَى " فهم الذين قالوا هذا عن أنفسهم قبل الإسلام حتى !! .. فكيف لا يرتضون بها ..

يا عزيزي .. إن النصارى سموا أنفسهم بذلك الأسم بكامل الرضى بلسانهم العربي ..

و لا أعرف لماذا يجادل البعض في هذا .. فلا عيب في هذا الإسم .. و إن شئت أن أناديك بالمسيحي فلك هذا ..

و لكن لا أحب أن يتم تغيير التاريخ و تُزوََر - بالبناء للمجهول - الحقائق لأجل فهمٍ مغلوط ..

و شكرًا ..


09-17-2005, 02:01 PM
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