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لماذا يقولون نصراني و ليس مسيحي
اقتباس:لو كنا نؤمن أن العقيدة التي كان يؤمن بها المسيح ويدعوإليها هي نفسها التي يسير عليها أتباعه لما كان هناك إشكال في تسمية أنفسهم ب
(المسيحيين) . لكننا نؤمن أن المسيح كان يدعو إلى عبادة الله وحده ولم يدع أنه إله ولم يقل بالثالوث ولم يدع إلى رهبانية ولم يزعم أنه سيصلب فداء للبشر. إذن فالعلاقة النسبية غير موجودة ، وبناء على هذا تعتبر تسمية الذين يؤمنون بالمسيح إلها ب (المسيحيين) تسمية خاطئة.

هذا هو لب الموضوع

فالمسلم لا يسمي المسيحي مسيحياً ليس لأن اللغة اقتضت تسميته نصرانياً في الزمان القديم كما يردد بعض الزملاء المسلمين هنا ، فالمسألة ليس لها علاقة باللغة ، بقدر ما هي سلب لمسيحيتهم ، فتسميتهم بالنصارى مدفوع بدافع عقائدي لا لغوي ، فهم نصارى لأنهم لا يستحقون أن يُسموا مسيحيين .

و اسم العلم ليس له علاقة بمعتقداتنا ، فمثلاً هناك كاتب سعودي شهير نافح عن السلفية فترة طويلة من الزمن ثم ارتد ملحداً إسمه (عبد الله القصيمي) .

و فيما هو لم يعد عبد الله كصفة ، لكنه بقي عبد الله كعلم ، أي أنك تسميه باسمه بغض النظر عن ما يؤمن به أو ما تؤمن به أنت إن كان عبد الله حقيقةً أو كذباً .

كذلك الحال في اسم عبد الله بن أبي بن سلول كبير المنافقين .

فقد بقي اسمه عبد الله رغم أنه لم يكن عبد الله على الحقيقة و لا يحزنون ، بل كان منافقاً كافراً في الدرك الأسفل من جهنم كما يصفهم القرآن ، و مع ذلك بقي اسمه عبد الله .

فلماذا في حالة المسيحي لا تناديه بما سمى نفسه به بغض النظر عن صحة إيمانه من عدمها ؟؟؟؟

صدقني المسألة هي تحقير المسيحي و سلبه مسيحيته .

في المقابل يوجد في الإسلام ما يزيد على السبعين فرقة ، كان الصراع بينها مستعر منذ السلف الأول ، و كفر بعضها بعضاً علانية ، و مع ذلك ظلت تسمى الفرق الإسلامية نسبةً إلى الإسلام ، بغض النظر عن قناعة القائل . و أكبر مثال هو كتاب الأشعري "مقالات الإسلاميين" ، فلماذا يصفهم بالإسلاميين و هو يكفر معظمهم و يعتبرهم مارقين من الدين كمروق السهم من الرعية ؟؟؟!!!


صدقوني الموضوع لا يحتاج كل هذه الدبلوماسية في الرد ، فالمسألة ليست لغوية كما يحاول البعض القول تجميلاً لموقف الإسلام من الديانة المسيحية ، بل هو سلباً لهم لمسيحيتهم ، و هذا منطلق عقائدي عنصري يجب أن يتجاوز عنه من يدعي حوار الأديان .

و كلام ابن باز الذي نقلته سابقاً يوضح المسألة و ما تحتويه من عنصرية :

[QUOTE]جـ : معنى مسيحي نسبة إلى المسيح بن مريم عليه السلام ، وهم يزعمون أنهم ينتسبون إليه وهو بريء منهم



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09-17-2005, 05:13 PM
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