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لماذا يقولون نصراني و ليس مسيحي
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عزيزي العميد

أرجو أن لا تأخذ الأمور بشكل شخصي

عزيزي الختيار

لم آخذها بشكل شخصي ، والتمست لك العذر قلت ربما ضيق الوقت أو سهو ، ولكن لي الحق أن أسأل وخصوصا أنك تفاعلت مع مداخلات بعدها .

اقتباس:  الختيار   كتب/كتبت  
أما بالنسبة لشعر أمية بن أبي الصلت ، فلا بأس أن تستشهد به ، و لكن هل أفهم من ذلك أنك تقرّ ما نُسب إلى ابن أبي الصلت من أشعار ؟

الهدف من هذا السؤال هو الاصطياد ..

أولاً : لو فرضنا أني أقرّ بنسبة البيت إليه ، فليس بالضرورة أن يُفهم من ذلك أني أقرّ بكل ما هب ودب مما نسب إليه .
وإذا استشهدت بحديث مرفوع فلا يعني أنني أقرّ بصحة كل حديث نسب إلى النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم .

ثانياً : للتأكد من نسبة البيت إليه أو أيّ أبيات أخرى ، يحتاج منا إلى دراسة وتتبع .

ثالثاً : قد تسأل إذن لماذا أستشهد به طالما لستُ متأكداً من صحته ؟
أقول لقد استشهدت به من روابط نصرانية ، وهم ارتضوه وقبلوه ، فأنا ألزمهم بما ألزموا به أنفسهم ، ولأظهر لك وللزملاء النصارى أنّ هذه المواقع تنظر إلى مصطلح نصارى نظرة عادية ولا ترى فيه حرجاً أو إهانة .


وأريد هنا أن أسألك عزيزي الختيار
ألم ترَ أنّا ذكرنا علماء نصارى أجلاء استخدموا مصطلح " نصارى" في مؤلفاتهم ، كـ ابن المقفع ساويرس الأشموني ، وابن العبري ويحي بن عدي وكل علماء النصارى العرب طوال مئات السنين حتى القرن التاسع عشر ؟؟

بل وما زال الكثير منهم من يقبل بهذا المصطلح حتى اليوم ..

فما هو رأيك ؟؟



تحياتي

العميد
09-18-2005, 12:21 AM
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