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لماذا يقولون نصراني و ليس مسيحي
اميمه سالم غير متصل
عضو فعّال
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الانضمام: Apr 2005
مشاركة: #80
لماذا يقولون نصراني و ليس مسيحي
كان لى رأى اخر فىموضوع التسميه
لانى لم انظر اليه على انه امر الهى من القرأن والا لكنت اخترت نصرانى على الفور.
لى بعض الملاحظات على انهم فى مصر يدعون اقباط مصر ويحبون هذا الاسم على المسيحى والنصرانى

مسيحى نسبه لسيدنا عيسى ( المسيح )
او ناصرى نسبه الى ناصره
أو قبطى نسبه الى مصر

وهذا اقتباس من موسوعة ويكيبيديا
الكلمة العربية قبط هي تعريب للكلمة القبطية گِپْتياس، من اليونانية أَيْگُپْتيوس Αιγύπτιος التي تعني مصري؛ من أَيْگُپْتوس Αίγυπτος، الاسم اليوناني لمصر، المشتق من اسم مصري قديم لمصر، ربما يكون كمة.

قد يكون من المفيد أيضا معرفة أن بعض اللهجات العربية تنطق فيها القاف جيما غير مصوتة (خرساء) مماثلة للجيم في لهجة القاهرة و الدلتا، مما يجعل نطق الاسم المعرب في هذه الحالة قريبا جدا من الاسم اليوناني.

كانت قد اقتُرحت فرضية أن تكون لفظة قبط العربية تعريبا للاسم اليوناني لبلدة قفط في صعيد مصر، كُپتُس Κοπτος؛ إلا أن هذه الفرضية لم تعد تلقى قبولا الآن بوجه عام.

هناك فرضية أن الاسم اليوناني لمصر أَيْگُپْتوس أصله هو الاسم المصري لمدينة منف هتكاپتاح بمعنى محل روح پتاح، حيث أن منف كانت أهم مراكز العبادة المصرية في الدلتا؛ و بما أن اليونان لم ينطقوا الهاء في أوائل الكلمات، و لم يوجد صوت الحاء في لغتهم، تتبقى كپت. لكن التفسير الأكثر احتمالا لأصل أيگپتوس هو اللفظة المصرية كمة (غالبا تنطق كِمِه)، و هي لفظة تُفسر على أنها تعني أرض السواد أو الأرض السوداء، تمييزا لها عن الصحراء الصفراء المحمرة و ما يليها من بلاد؛ و على هذا كانوا يطلقون على أنفسهم نِرمْنكمِه بمعنى رجال الأرض السوداء. من الاسم اليوناني اشتقت الكلمات الدالة على مصر في اللغات الأوربية المختلفة.

الدلالة

استخدمت كلمة قبط قبل الفتح العربي لمصر للدلالة على شعبها على اختلاف دياناتهم من مسيحيين و أتباع الديانات الهلينية و ما سبقها من ديانات مصر القديمة، و منها اسم اللغة القبطية و هي الشكل التي وصلت إليه اللغة المصرية (و بوصف أدق الشكل الذي وصلت إليه الكتابة) في العصر الهليني و العصر المسيحي الذي تلاه.

في العصر المسيحي اكتسبت الكلمة معنى جديدا للدلالة على الكنيسة المصرية و ذلك في مقابل الكنائس الوطنية الأخرى للسريان و الأرمن و الروم؛ بعد دخول الإسلام إلى مصر أصبحت الكلمة تدل على المسيحيين المصريين و ذلك لأنه في بدايات هذه الفترة كان كل المصريين مسيحيين، و في المقابل كان كل المسلمين عربا.

و الغالب أن المصريين أنفسم لم يستخدموا أبدا هذه الكلمة أو ما يشتق منها في أي لغة للدلالة على أنفسهم إذ لم تظهر أي إشارات في كل التاريخ المكتوب للغة المصرية بمراحله و خطوطه المختلفة (الهيروغليفية، الهيراطيقية، الديموطيقية، القبطية) تعرِّف البلد بالقبطية أو ساكنيها بالقبط، إنما كانوا يستخدمون اللفظة كمت كما ذكر آنفا.

يسعى القوميون المصريون حاليا إلى إعادة إكساب الكلمة معناها الأصلي كاسم للشعب المصري على مختلف دياناته و أصوله العرقية.

لماذا يسمون نفسهم باسم بلد وهى مصر ويرفضون مدينة الناصره والتى هى مكان مولد المسيح عليه السلام؟

09-19-2005, 11:28 AM
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