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سبب انوعاج البعض من زواج النبي
sarkooessa غير متصل
عضو فعّال
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المشاركات: 65
الانضمام: Jun 2010
مشاركة: #35
الرد على: سبب انوعاج البعض من زواج النبي
سيد أبو قيرواني
أنت قلت :
النص الذي اوردته يثبت بصفة قاطعة ان تعدد الزوجات ليس زنا
لان الزنا تم تحريمه في شريعة موسى عليه السلام
وداوود عليه السلام بعد موسى عليه السلام
فثبت لكل ذي لب ان شريعة موسى لا تحرم تعدد الزوجات
وهل الاباحة الا عدم التحريم
فشريعة موسى عليه السلام تبيح تعدد الزوجات
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أنا ذكرت لك مثالا عن الخمر يوضح كل الفكرة وأنت تجاهلته تماما لذلك أكرره لك بطريقة أخرى ...
الخمر كما تعلم وكما يقول لك القرآن رجس من عند الشيطان ورغم ذلك كان المسلمون وبمن فيهم محمد يشربون الخمر بلا حرج لأنه لم يكن هناك نص يمنعه أو يبيحه ولذلك هم كانوا معذورين في ذلك لأنه لا يوجد قانون يقول لهم أن لا يفعلوا العكس أي لم يكن هناك مايلزمهم بعدم شربه ...
لكن هل عدم وجود تشريع يغير من كون أن الخمر كان رجسا أيضا قبل التشريع ... هل التشريع هو من جعل الخمر رجسا أم أنه كان رجسا من الأساس ولذلك جاء التشريع لتحريمه ... ورغم أنه كان رجسا قبل التشريع فقد كانو يشربونه
لذلك قولك أن الإباحة تعني عدم تحريم صحيح في حال كان هناك إباحة صريحة بنص صريح لكنه ليس كذلك فهو لم يكن إباحة بل كان عدم إخبار بالتحريم أو حتى بالإباحة فلا تخلط الأمور
ومن هذا المبدأ نعود ونقول أن التعدد في العهد القديم كان لعدم وجود إخبار بالتحريم أو بالتحليل الصريح

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أنت قلت :
وكون ذلك منسوخ باقوال المسيح عليه السلام فلا دليل عليه لان قرات الاناجيل التي اختارها او فرضها مجمع نيقية فلم اجد فيها ان المسيح منع التعدد واطالبك بالنص
بل العكس هو الصحيح وان المسيح حسب هذه الاناجيل قال انه من يغير الناموس يسمى اصغرا
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المسيح لم ينسخ شيئا فليس هناك نسخ في الإنجيل ... المسيح كمل ما هوناقص في الشريعة ألا وهو تحريم التعدد

مِنْ أَجْلِ هذَا يَتْرُكُ الرَّجُلُ أَبَاهُ وَأُمَّهُ وَيَلْتَصِقُ بِامْرَأَتِهِ، وَيَكُونُ الاثْنَانِ جَسَدًا وَاحِدًا».

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أنت قلت :
و بولص هو الذي منع التعدد بل انه قال انه من الافضل ان لا يتزوج الانسان على الاطلاق
اي ان بولس يقول انه من الافضل ان تخالف فطرة الله و امره في العهد القديم للبشر بالتكاثر
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بولس لم يمنع شيئا ... المسيح هو من فعل ورجاء لا تقتطف آيات وتفسرها على مزاجك فعندما نحاججكم بالقرآن نأتي بتفاسير كبار مفسرينكم
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أنت قلت :
وحتو بولس لا يسمح لك بانتقاد من هو خارج الكنيسة
12 لانه ماذا لي ان ادين الذين من خارج.الستم انتم تدينون الذين من داخل.
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وما دخل هذا بحديثنا ....؟!!

10-06-2010, 11:57 PM
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