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من هم آل محمد؟، ومن هم آل موسى وآل هارون وآل فرعون؟؟
على نور الله غير متصل
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المشاركات: 8,439
الانضمام: Apr 2005
مشاركة: #34
ّRE: من هم آل محمد؟، ومن هم آل موسى وآل هارون وآل فرعون؟؟
الزميل اسلام :
تفضلت بالقول :
............
حتى وإن تورطت أو فشلت أو توصلت لما يخالف قناعتي،
يهمني الاستفادة والإفادة واستخدام العقل للوصول إلى إظهار الحق وهذه رسالة المسلم الحق في حياته،
لست أطلب أجراً، ولا زعامةً، ولا سيادةً، ولا اصطفاءً، ولا علواً، ولا فساداً، ولا شهرةً، ولا مصلحةً، ولا أتحيز لطائفةٍ أو فردٍ مهما كان أو يكون،
.............
الجواب:
خير ان شاء الله و هدانا و هداك الله .
بس يا اخى ارجو ان تنفذ ما تقول عمليا .

تفضلت بالقول :
............
جملة: " يكتم إيمانه " فسرت: جملة: " من آل فرعون " فهو من آل فرعون لأنه يكتم إيمانه،
لذا فالآية ليس فيها ما يدل على أن كلمة " آل " تعني القريب،
بل كما أسلفنا وذكرنا من آيات الله الكثيرة سابقاً وتابعتها معنا فالآل تشمل القريب والبعيد التابع والمناصر،
.............
الجواب:
اولا : حضرتك لم تثبت باى اية ان كلمة الال تعنى غير القريب
ثانيا : يا عزيزى ضع الاية امامك و انظر الى التناقض العجيب الغريب فى الاية ان فسرت الال بالتابع .
فالاية بذلك تقول :
و قال رجل مؤمن من اتباع فرعون يكتم ايمانه ... الخ
شوف التناقض الذى تقشعر له الابدان
مؤمن يتبع فرعون (تناقض لا يمكن تفسيره ابدا )
اما لو قيل
مؤمن من عائلة فرعون (فلا يوجد تناقض )
كتمه للايمان يخرجه من ال فرعون ان كانت تعنى الاتباع و لا يجوز ان يوصف بانه من ال فرعون .
فمثلا :
هل يجوز ان نقول :
عبد الله بن ابى بن سلول من ال محمد يكتم كفره .(حسب تفسيرك)
و انت تصلى عليه فى صلاتك و تسلم
و كل المسلمين فى العالم بمئات الملايين حسب تفسيرك للال يصلون على ابى بن سلول و يسلمون تسليما لانه من ال محمد حسب تفسيرك .
تناقض خطير لا يمكنك ان تحله الا بالاعتراف كما اعترف من قبلك من علماء اجلاء بان الال لا تعنى الا الاقارب و خصوصا الذرية .
ساجاوب على بقية الاسئلة ان شاء الله
اعتذر فقد طرء طارئ و مضطر للمتابعة لاحقا ان شاء الله

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