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مدونة مصرية ملحدة تنشر صورتها عارية لدعم مفهوم الحرية
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RE: مدونة مصرية ملحدة تنشر صورتها عارية لدعم مفهوم الحرية
(11-26-2011, 04:04 AM)عاشق الكلمه كتب:  
(11-25-2011, 07:59 PM)Dr.xXxXx كتب:  
(11-25-2011, 07:04 PM)على نور الله كتب:  يا عزيزى , معايير الحرية الشخصية الاخلاقية كما اوضحت سابقا تختلف من مجتمع الى اخر.
حتى الدول الغربية تختلف فى عقوباتها و فى تجريمها للتعرى و مقدار التعرى و مكان التعرى ... الخ
بما ان الدول العربية مجتمعات محافظة فلا مانع ان يكون القانون اكثر صرامة فى مسالة التعرى مرعاة للمجتمع .
هل يجب ان يكون تعريفنا للحرية الشخصية فى التعرى مطابقا للغرب ؟؟؟؟
لا طبعا , فمجتمعاتنا لها خصائصها التى تميزها عن الغرب , بغض النظر عن الراى الدينى فى المسالة .
هذا الامر غير مقبول فى الدول العربية عاداتا و تقاليدا و دينا .

هذا لا يعتبر عرياً في مكان عام ولا يخل بالآداب العامة، ولا يدخل في خانة عدم مراعاة الاخلاق الاجتماعية.
ثم من الذي يقرر العادات والتقاليد؟ ومن يجبر شخصاً على التقيد بتعاليم دينك؟
فتاة قررت أن تتصور عارية (لا أفهم القصد من وراء ذلك، لكنها حرة) ووضعت صورها في مدونة خاصة بها فبأي حق تعترض طالما لم تجبرك على مشاهدة صورها؟؟ وأي قانون قد يمنعها أصلاً من أن تتصور عارية؟؟
أنا مع محاربة العري في الاماكن العامة، لكن اعارض الاعتداءات التافهة على الحرية الشخصية وتبريرها ب"أخلاق المجتمع".
حريتك تنتهي عندما تمس حريتي، طبق هذه المقولة على علياء المهدي لترى من الذي اعتدى على حقوق الآخر.

ياعزيزى القضية ليست فى التعرى وأنما القضية هى الهدف من التعرى .....

قلنا قبل كده أن صور الشراميط العرب وأفلامهم الجنسيه تطفح بهما الشبكة العنكبوتية , واذا كانت القضية هى التعرى فيجب القبض على كل هؤلاء أولا ومحاكمتهم بأسبقية الدور , فكل من تعرت ومارست الجنس أولا تحاكم أولا لتكون علياء المهدى أخرهم , أنما القضية هى فى الدعوة الى التعرى وحض النساء على ذلك وأعتبار أن ذلك صرخة وثورة على التقاليد والقيم الأخلاقية العربية .

لو أنها تعرت ونشرت صورتها فى موقع جنسى ما كان أحد ألتفت لها أصلا ولتمارس حريتها كيفما شاءت وكما تفعل ألوف النساء فى تلك المواقع , لكنها جعلت من عريها قضية أخلاقية تمس قيم المجتمع مما يضعها فى قائمه الذين يحبون أن تشيع الفاحشه بين الناس , فهى تحض على الاباحية والفجور بحسب قيمنا وأعرافنا المجتمعية .

ناك هى القضية كما تناولها الاعلام وصدرها الى المجتمع .

عاشق الكلمة : اقتربت كثيرا مما جال في خاطري و كنت اريد قوله.
المسألة أننا تعودنا على اختراق حرية الغير و إن لم تمس حريتنا ، لا أحد يرغب في إختراق اعراف المجتمع، ولكن على الواعين منا تحديد معنى بعض المصطلحات المبهمة ، كالإباحية ، والفاحشة و و :
فكما قيل : لا يمكننا حل مشكلةٍ باستخدام العقلية نفسها التي أنشأتها.
علينا نشر ثقافة أنه : كلما اقتربت القوانين من الواقع أصبحت غير ثابتة، وكلما اقتربت من الثبات أصبحت غير واقعية. فالامور نسبية ، اليوم فتاة ترتدي فستانا فوق الركبة بقليل يعد عريا في مجتمع متحجب منقب، يمتطيه الجهل و التخلف ، بينما كان لا ينظر لهذا الموضوع على أنه عريا منذ ثلاثون سنة فقط !! وكان الناس افضل اخلاقا وقتئذ !!

لو لم يهتم بعض المرضى المغيبين بما نشرته هذه الفتاة التي كانت تريد أن تقول اعطوني حريتي و إلا انتزعتها بالطريقة التي أراها تذهلكم ، لما تضخم الموضوع إنها تقول لكم : إنَّ اضطرارنا لعمل ما، يختلف عما نؤمن به، لمدْعـَاة للشعور بالعبث السخيف . وهي حرة في رايها ن ما دامت لم تفعل هذا في الشارع العام.

قال : سادتي الفلاسفة، إن البداية تكون عندما نقتنع أن ما بأيدينا ليس شيئا ذا بال، بل هو شيء بالت عليه كل القرون اللواحق..سيد القمني
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