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المشاركات: 577
الانضمام: May 2004
مشاركة: #148
بحث في إثبات أنّ كاتب إنجيل مرقس مجهول
اقتباس: العميد كتب/كتبت
الزميل حارس السراب

أولاً ، يا حبذا لو تمزج كتابتك بقليل من أدب الحوار والبعد عن السخرية يكون أفضل .
بصراحة لا أستطيع ذلك إن أصرّيت على ما تكتب..
أكتب شيئاً محترماً وحاور دون مراوغات وتملصات ورد على الأسئلة بأسئلة.. تجدني أحترم المادة التي تأتي بها..
أما ما تكتبه.. عفواً.. لا أستطيع أن أحترمه لا بحثياً ولا من حيث الأسلوب أو الهدف..


أنظر ما هي حصيلة مداخلتك، وما الذي أتيت به؟ أنا لم أجد شيئاً سوى الإفلاس كما إعتدت منك..

تأمل عزيزي القارئ:

اقتباس:أقول : هذا هو كلام من عدم الحجة والدليل ، انظروا في الموضوع يتحدث عن ماذا ، وزميلنا يحشو ويطيل في الشخصنة والكلام الفارغ .

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اقتباس:إذا كنت تريد أن تتكلم باسلوب محترم فأهلاً بك ، وهات لنا أدلتك للنناقشها ، ولا تظن أنك بالاستمرار في هذا الأسلوب الطفولي الساخر سوف تجرني إلى مثله والدخول معك في المهاترات والسخرية ، فأنت مخطئ ، فأقصى ما يمكن أن تجرني إليه هو تجاهل مداخلاتك العابثة .

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اقتباس:مرقس كتب كشاهد عيان..
مرقس كتب عن بطرس.. !!!!

الزميل يظن أنّه لا بد لواحدة منهما أن تكون صحيحة ، لذلك لم يفهم كلامي (القول بأنه كتبها عن طريق بطرس أو بذاته كشاهد عيّان ، قولان لا يسندهما دليل معتبر ، ولا يوجد ما يُثبت ذلك ، اللهم إلا أقوال مرسلة لأناس ولدوا بعد وفاة مرقس بعشرات السنين ) .

راجع الكلام مرة أخرى ودقق به مع التركيز لو تكرمت .

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اقتباس:الزميل المحترم ، هل قرأت المقال الرئيس لهذا لشريط ؟؟
إن كان لا ، فأرجو أن تقرأه حتى لا تتعبنا بكلام ليس له من العلم حظّ أو نصيب .
وإن كنتَ قرأتَه ، فالمفروض أن تكون قرأتَ ردودي على الأقوال التي نقلتُها أنا ، وإذا كان ذلك كذلك ، فوجب عليك أن تناقش ردودي عليها ، فافعل وفقك الله .

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اقتباس:( إختلافها وكثرتها ) ، من يقرأ هذا الكلام يظن أن الأقوال بالآلاف ، فلو جمعنا أقوال آباء القرون الأربعة الأولى في هذا الصدد لن نجد إلا أقوالاً معدودة على الأصابع ، فيا لها من مغالطات وقلة دراية وعلم .

:nocomment:

اقتباس:منطق غريب فعلاً ...

النصارى هم من يدعي ويقولون إن مرقس هو الكاتب للإنجيل الثاني ، فعندما نطالبهم بالدليل يقولون ( هل أنتم عندكم دليل عكس ذلك ) ؟

منطق أعوج فعلاً ، مثلهم كمثل "س" عندما اتهم "ص" بالسرقة ، فوقفا أمام القاضي ، فبدل أن يطلب القاضي الدليل من المدّعي "س" لكي يُثبت صحة دعواه ، يتحول ليطلب الدليل من المتهم "ص" لإثبات عكس ما يقوله "س" .


تحياتي

العميد


:nocomment:

:nocomment:

:nocomment:


هل وجد أحدكم شيئاً مفيداً؟ :what:

أنا لم أفعل سوى إعادة مداخلته بعد حذف إقتباساتي لا أكثر..
الزميل لا يجد شيئاً ليكتبه سوى الطعن في المحاور دون الدخول على نقاط الحوار التي إستعرضتها معه إطلاقاً..

وماله.. نعيد والتكرار يعلم العميد..

اقتباس:على رسلك يا زميلنا.. فأنت مازلت تحبو يا رفيق فلا تصف نفسك بالباحث الدارس وأنت لا تعلم أصلاً ما معنى "إجماع"، ولا تدرك أن السند لإنجيل مرقس مروي بأربعة طرق مختلفة..

ألا تعلم يا "باحث دارس" الأربعة طرق التي تم توثيقها بدون الحاجة إليها أصلاً نظراً للإجماع المتواتر؟

لا..
لن أذكرها لك قبل أن تقول: "أنا غير ملم بكل ما كتب.. أنا مقصّر فيما كتبت.. زيدونا من معلوماتكم فأنا مجرد مسلم لا يعرف عن المسيحية الكثير"

قال "وجدّتها كلها

[QUOTE]السؤال مباشرة.. وللمرة الثالثة.. وكفانا من مراوغات المفلسين..
ما علاقة كل هذا بتجهيل الكاتب (مرقس) عنوة وبأنه من قام بالكتابة في كل الأحوال؟

مرقس كتب كشاهد عيان.. مرقس كتب عن بطرس..

في كلاهما نجد: "مرقس كتب" والقضية المثارة هي قضيّة أخري غير كونه الكاتب.
فماذا تسمي - أنت - عنوان موضوعك؟

أنا شخصياً أسمّيه خدعة..

اقتباس:وماله.. نعيد من تاني والتكرار يعّلم العميد..

هناك أخبار مدوّنة، على إختلافها وكثرتها، تتفق إجماعاً مع الإجماع الشفوي المسلّم من جيل إلى جيل في أن مرقس هو الكاتب.
هل هناك أية أخبار توحي بعكس هذا؟

[QUOTE]أكرر مرة أخري بطريقة مباشرة..
هل هناك أيه مقولات (ذات ثقة) تدعونا لأن "الكاتب مرقس" هو أمر عارضه أحد من المعاصرين للمسيح أو لمرقس أو للجماعة المسيحية الأولى؟


رجاء أن تخيّب ظنوني وتقول قولة حق بدلاً من المراوغات والتملصات..


إحترامي..
10-26-2005, 12:57 AM
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