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مشاركة: #41
Il Corano Italiano
اقتباس:Buongiorno signore ابن العرب

اقتباس :
لا تنسي أن الإيطالية فيها لفظة تفيد المعنى الدقيق المطلوب أي "الناس" وهي لفظة gente
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كلمة uomini تعطي معنى أفضل من gente في سورة الناس و القران ككل

لكل لغة كلمات معينة تعطي المعنى المطلوب لغويا و القريب من الأصل عند الترجمة و أظن أن العلماء المسلمين و المتخصصين في اللغة الايطالية أدرى منك في هذه المسألة

سأعطيك مثال لكنه باللغة الفرنسية التي لها تقريبا نفس قواعد اللغة الايطالية :
Le dieu a crée les hommes
نفهم منها أن الله خلق البشر بينما لو قلنا :

Le dieu a crée les gens
الله خلق الناس نحس أنها جملة ركيكة

اقتباس :
وقد استعملها المترجم في ترجمة لفظة "الناس" مرة واحدة فقط من بين أربع أو خمس مرات، فلماذا؟!
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لأن الناس الأولى تعميم على ألوهية الله لجميع و كافة البشر بينما الناس الأخيرة تعني بعض البشر و الجن...و الترجمة رائعة و أدت المعنى المطلوب تماما

اقتباس :
الرجال غير الناس والناس غير الرجال وذلك أيضا في الإيطالية، حتى وإن كانت كلمة الرجال في العربية كما في الإيطالية قد تُدرَج لتفيد "الناس عامة". لكن في ترجمة دقيقة للقرآن أو لمعاني القرآن ينبغي توخي الدقة.
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بهذه الطريقة تأكد أنك لا تفهم قواعد اللغة الايطالية، و الترجمة دقيقة و رائعة و مفهومة جدا، و لا تشيل هم على ترجمة القران فهو محفوظ باذن الله وهو قادر على احاطته بمترجمين دقيقين حتى يتم رسالته في الدنيا و لا تبقى عليه حجة يوم القيامة...

شكرا لمتابعتك الموضوع.
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لا شكر على واجب
ومن يكن ذا فم مرٍّ سقيمٍ . . . . يجِدْ مُرًّا به الماءَ الزُلالا
كان يجب أن يقال هذا في أول النقاش، ولكني أقوله بعد أن تكلم من يفهم الإيطالية .... واسمعي يا جارة
11-11-2005, 01:28 PM
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Il Corano Italiano - بواسطة DAY_LIGHT - 11-09-2005, 05:53 AM,
Il Corano Italiano - بواسطة أنور - 11-09-2005, 06:43 AM,
Il Corano Italiano - بواسطة عبد الله عز و جل - 11-09-2005, 06:56 AM,
Il Corano Italiano - بواسطة Logikal - 11-09-2005, 07:20 AM,
Il Corano Italiano - بواسطة ابن العرب - 11-09-2005, 08:51 AM,
Il Corano Italiano - بواسطة ابن العرب - 11-09-2005, 09:26 AM,
Il Corano Italiano - بواسطة ابن العرب - 11-09-2005, 09:28 AM,
Il Corano Italiano - بواسطة ابن العرب - 11-09-2005, 09:32 AM,
Il Corano Italiano - بواسطة ابن العرب - 11-09-2005, 09:46 AM,
Il Corano Italiano - بواسطة ابن العرب - 11-09-2005, 09:47 AM,
Il Corano Italiano - بواسطة ابن العرب - 11-09-2005, 09:48 AM,
Il Corano Italiano - بواسطة Hajer - 11-09-2005, 10:21 AM,
Il Corano Italiano - بواسطة ضيف - 11-09-2005, 11:37 AM,
Il Corano Italiano - بواسطة ابن العرب - 11-09-2005, 12:42 PM,
Il Corano Italiano - بواسطة ابن العرب - 11-09-2005, 12:44 PM,
Il Corano Italiano - بواسطة Hajer - 11-09-2005, 01:01 PM,
Il Corano Italiano - بواسطة Hajer - 11-09-2005, 01:25 PM,
Il Corano Italiano - بواسطة السرياني - 11-09-2005, 02:07 PM,
Il Corano Italiano - بواسطة DAY_LIGHT - 11-09-2005, 06:46 PM,
Il Corano Italiano - بواسطة السرياني - 11-09-2005, 08:59 PM,
Il Corano Italiano - بواسطة حسن سلمان - 11-09-2005, 09:24 PM,
Il Corano Italiano - بواسطة Logikal - 11-09-2005, 09:47 PM,
Il Corano Italiano - بواسطة DAY_LIGHT - 11-10-2005, 02:47 AM,
Il Corano Italiano - بواسطة ضيف - 11-10-2005, 04:27 AM,
Il Corano Italiano - بواسطة Hajer - 11-10-2005, 10:11 AM,
Il Corano Italiano - بواسطة ابن العرب - 11-10-2005, 09:29 PM,
Il Corano Italiano - بواسطة ابن العرب - 11-10-2005, 10:05 PM,
Il Corano Italiano - بواسطة حسن سلمان - 11-10-2005, 10:22 PM,
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Il Corano Italiano - بواسطة Hajer - 11-11-2005, 10:33 AM,
Il Corano Italiano - بواسطة حمدي - 11-11-2005, 01:28 PM
Il Corano Italiano - بواسطة ابن العرب - 11-11-2005, 09:48 PM,
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