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بحث في إثبات أنّ كاتب إنجيل مرقس مجهول
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بحث في إثبات أنّ كاتب إنجيل مرقس مجهول
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يقول الزميل الراعي :
اقتباس:  تابع الرد على الاعتراض الأول:
 وفضلاً عما سبق نضيف ونقول: يجمع جميع علماء المسيحية على أن القديس مرقس الرسول هو أحد الذين شاهدوا المسيح :
1 - فنعرف من سفر الأعمال أن منزل والدته " مريم أم يوحنا الملقب مرقس " (أع12:12) كان مقراً لاجتماع الرسل في أورشليم، وكان المؤمنون مجتمعين فيه للصلاة وقت سجن بطرس " فكان بطرس محروساً في السجن. أما الكنيسة فكانت تصير منها صلاة بلجاجة إلى الله من أجله " (أع12 :5)، وبعد خروجه من السجن (سنة 44م) في تلك الليلة جاء بطرس " وهو منتبه إلى بيت مريم أم يوحنا الملقب مرقس حيث كان كثيرون مجتمعين وهم يصلون " (أع12 :12). وقد أجمع أكثر العلماء والدارسون والمؤرخون على أن هذا البيت كان هو البيت الذي تنازل فيه الرب يسوع المسيح الفصح مع تلاميذه والعلية التي كان يجتمع فيها الرسل في أورشليم قبل صعود الرب يسوع وبعد صعوده والتي حل فيها الروح القدس على التلاميذ (أع1و2)، وكان أول كنيسة في العالم، أو كما تقول دائرة المعارف البريطانية في طبعتها الحادية عشر أن بيت مرقس كان مركزاً للحياة المسيحية في أورشليم (كتاب " مرقس الرسول " لقداسة البابا شنودة الثالث ص14).
2 - ويؤكد جميع الدارسين أن القديس مرقس كان هو الشاب الذي تبع الرب يسوع ليلة القبض عليه والذي كان " لابساً إزاراً على عريه فأمسكه الشبان. فترك الأزرار وهرب منهم عرياناً " (مر14 :15). فهو وحده الذي يذكر هذا الحدث، ولو لم يكن لهذا الحدث قيمه بالنسبة له لما ذكره. ويقول أحد العلماء ويدعى Lange أن والدته كانت تمتلك بستان جثسيماني أو منزل قريب منه.  
3 - كما يؤكد بعض الآباء مثل أوريجانوس وابيفانيوس أسقف سلاميس بقبرص ويجمع جميع مؤرخي الكنيسة القبطية في كل العصور على أن القديس مرقس كان أحد السبعون رسولاً الذين عينهم الرب " وأرسلهم الرب أثنين أثنين أمام وجهه إلى كل مدينة أو موضع حيث كان هو مزمعاً أن يأتي " (لو10 :1). ومن ثم تلقبه بـ " ناظر الإله الإنجيلي " باعتباره أحد الذين شاهدوا الرب وسمعوه، أحد شهود العيان.
 وأنت هنا تسألني " أين قال أوريجانوس وابيفانيوس هذا الكلام ؟" .
وأقول لك هذا الكلام ورد في كتاب العلامة أوريجانوس عن الإيمان بالله وهو غير موجود في سلسلة آباء ما قبل وبعد نيقية وقد نقله قداسة البابا شنودة الثالث في كتابه " مرقس الرسول والشهيد " ص 15 عن " De Recta In Deum Fide" أما أبيفانيوس فقد قال ذلك كتابه ضد الهرطقات (51 :5) .كما يجمع جميع مؤرخي الأقباط دون استثناء على ذلك ، ونقل عنهم في العصور الوسطى المؤرخ العربي المقريزي فقال " ومن هؤلاء السبعين مرقس الإنجيلي. وكان اسمه أولاً يوحنا " .
 وبرغم تفرد الأقباط بأنه أحد السبعين رسولاً إلا أن جميع الدارسين يجمعون على أنه باعتباره ابن مريم أم يوحنا الملقب مرقس والذي كان بيتها مقراً للمسيح ثم تلاميذه في أورشليم قد رأي المسيح وهو صغير السن، الشاب الذي ترك الأزار ليلة القبض على المسيح.
الخلاصة هي أن القديس مرقس الرسول كان لديه ميزة مشاهدة المسيح ومشاهدة جميع التلاميذ والرسل وهم يجتمعون في بيت والدته وكرازاته مع ثلاثة منهم هم القديسين بولس وبرنابا ثم بولس ثم بطرس .
 وكان من الواضح في تدوينه الإنجيل ، وكما بينت أعلاه ، أنه يكتب ما سمعه من التلاميذ خاصة بطرس الرسول وكان يكتب أمورا شاهدها بنفسه كشاهد عيان . أو كما تقول دائرة المعارف الكتابية " المادة المتميزة في إنجيل مرقس: والمواضيع التي ينفرد بها مرقس هي ما جاء في الإصحاح الرابع (4: 26- 29) عن البذار التي تنمو سراً، وفي الإصحاح الثالث (3: 21) عن مخاوف أقربائه وفي الإصحاح الثامن (8: 22-26) عن الأعمى، وفي الإصحاح الثالث عشر (13: 33-37) عن البواب والسهر، وفي الإصحاح الرابع عشر (14: 51) عن الشاب الهارب. وبالإضافة إلى هذا، هناك الكثير من الكلمات الحية التي تضفي لمعاناً على المواضيع الأخرى. ورواية مرقس أو في غير قليل من الأحداث المشتركة بين الأناجيل، مثلما في موضوع موت يوحنا المعمدان (6: 14-29)، والأكل بأيدي غير مغتسلة (7: 1-23)، والغلام الذي كان يصرعه الروح النجس (9: 14-29)، وحوار أحد الكتبة معه (12: 28-34) وهناك من مثل هذه الأجزاء ما يكفي لإثبات أن كاتب الإنجيل لم يعتمد اعتماداً كلياً على البشيرين الآخرين (اعتماده على نفسه كشاهد عيان).  

أقول : نجد مناقشة هذا الكلام وتفصيله في موضوعنا الموسوم بـ " أضواء نقدية على مرقس الإنجيلي " ، حيث يجد القارئ الكم الهائل من المغالطات وقلب الحقائق ، والتي يحاول الزميل الراعي أن يمررها وكأنها من المسلمات .

يتبع إن شاء الله ..

02-01-2006, 06:27 PM
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