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مناقشة لكتاب Die Richtungen der Islamischen Koranauslegung
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صبيغ بحسب ترجمته التاريخية كان متعلما مثقفا ولم يكن متعنتا

واذا اردنا ان نحاكم عمر كما حاكم صبيغ
فعمر اولى بالضرب على رأسه بالعراجين من صبيغ لأن عمر ابقى نص القرآن مفتوحا لاجتهاداته
مع ان احدا من المسلمين كان ليجروء على ادعاءات عمر بالنص القرآني
لان النص القرآني برأي عمر الشخصي كان ناقصا كما هو في نسخ بعض الصحابة
ومقولته مشهورة ( لولا أن يقول المسلمون إن عمر زاد في كتاب الله لأمرت بوضعها فيه )
ولم يكن يعرف عدد الايات الحقيقي في أكثر السور
ويبدل كلمات بعض الايات من مثل (فاسعوا) في سورة الجمعة فكان عمر يصر على تغييرها الى (فامضوا)
واصراره على خطأ اية ومن عنده علم الكتاب وجعلها من عند الله علم الكتاب
واصراره على آيات ليس لها وجود الا عند عمر (حفد وخلع ورجم ووادي التراب ومحاولة حرمان الانصار من اية والذين اتبعوهم باحسان .....
الى غيرها الكثير الكثير مما اعرضنا عن ذكره

هذه المسائل كلها لها دخالة في موضوع دعوى جمع القرآن
لان دعوى الجمع بالنسبة لنا هي محاولة غير بريئة كان يقصد منها شيء آخر نوضح ذلك خلال الحوار
حتى القرآن الذي ادعي انه جمع في عهد عثمان لم ينشر

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