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مناقشة لكتاب Die Richtungen der Islamischen Koranauslegung
zaidgalal غير متصل
عضو رائد
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المشاركات: 4,570
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مناقشة لكتاب Die Richtungen der Islamischen Koranauslegung
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شاكر لك كل الشكر على ردودك و قصدت من الحوار أن أستفيد و أتعلم لا أن أخلق جدل طائفي. لك مطلق الحرية أستاذي أن تخرج من الموضوع الذي فتحته أنا و لا تلقي بالاً لأي من التعليقات التي يقوم بها أصحابها و كأنهم أصحاب الحق المطلق.
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وأنت عندما تطرح سؤالًا وتنتظر من جانب واحد الإجابة تعتقد بذلك أنكما أصحاب الحق المطلق.
عندما يبدأ المجيب يخوض في كتاب الله بغير علم ولا مراجع ولا مصادر إلا الروايات الملفقة وتريد منَّا أن نسكت على التزوير فهذا ما لا يمكن أبدًا.

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هدفنا هو العلم لا أن نثبت أن فلان صح و فلان خطأ.
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إذن عليك أن تثبت إيمانك بالحرية ولا تمتعض من رأي لا يروق لك ولهواك.

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تحياتي لك يا أستاذ رحمة و أشكرك على كل ما كتبته و سوف أحتفظ بهذا الموضوع فقط لأرجع لما كتبت أنت فقط.
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تحياتي للحرية وللإتفاقات المسبقة حيث الاتفاق على السؤال والجواب.

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يعتمد على ركام الاخبار المعتمدة لديهم لاثبات اضطراب النص القرآني
ومنها اسطورة الاحرف السبعة
وروايات جمع ابو بكر وعمر وعثمان للمصحف
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سأناقشها هنا بالتفصيل في موضعها إن شاء الله ليتضح لك سوء فهمك. وماذا عن أسطورة كتاب القائم الذي في السرداب يشير إلى بطنه ليقول أنه يخاف الخروج خشية القتل؟ وماذا عن أسطورة مصحف فاطمة؟ وماذا عن أسطورة الجفر الأبيض والأحمر وزبور داود وإنجيل عيسى وتوراة موسى؟ .... الخ.

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قال المفيد في الارشاد والرسائل قال : إن علياً كتب في مصحفه تأويل بعض الآيات، وتفسيرها بالتفصيل
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وأين مصدر شيخك المفيد؟؟؟!!!

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واضاف ابن شهراشوب في المناقب وإنما أرجعوه إليه ؛ لأن أول صفحة فتح عليها أبو بكر، وجد فيها فضائح القوم، أعني المهاجرين والأنصار ؛ فخافوا
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وماذا عن الروايات الشيعية الأخر التي تناقض هذا؟؟؟ لم نسمع لك صوتًا يكذبها!!!

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معنى هذا الكلام وغيره على الاقل ان عمر وابو بكر لم يكن عندهم شيء من نسخ المصحف التي كانت منتشرة بين الصحابة.
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وماذا عن الروايات الشيعية التي تؤكد على وجوده؟؟؟ وماذا عن باقي الصحابة والمسلمين الذين كانوا يحفظون القرآن الكريم عن ظهر قلب؟؟؟ وماذا عن روايات الكافي عن القرآن الكريم الموجود حاليًّا بين أيدينا؟!

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ولنا عودة الى موضوع الكتاب
واسطورة عمر واحرفه السبعة حديث خرافة تعمده عمر لغاية سنبينها لكم انشاء الله
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وإني في انتظارك

لذلك احذر أن تتكلم بدون مراجع ومصادر!!!

فالقرآن الكريم كتاب الله، كتابنا إلا إذا ادعيت ملكيته انت وحدك وملكية النادي تطرح فيه ما تشاء وليس لأي عضو الحق في طرح وجهة نظرك وبيان فساد رواياتك!!!

ونحن أعلم بعقيدتكم فيه من خلال مراجعكم

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