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مناقشة لكتاب Die Richtungen der Islamischen Koranauslegung
يا اخي والله حيرتنا
هلق فصك حامي لان صار همك كتاب الله والصحابة
لشو اللف والدوران
قل انا همي الصحابة وتحديدا الحزب القرشي

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يا عيني ناقش الموضوع الاصلي
حاول ان تقرأ كتاب كولد تسهير اولا
الرجل هدم كتابك بخرافة الخليفة واسرائيليات الطبري

سأعطيك أمثلة وحاول ان تفكر فيها

أنت كمسلم محافظ ، سلفي ، أشعري ، و تدعي إن القرآن معجزة
فقل لكولد تسهير كيف يكون القرآن معجزا لغير المسلمين حين لا يرون فيه أي ميزة ونصه مضطرب وغير محدد الدلالة باعتراف الخليفة واحرفه السبعة
فبماذا تجيب لو قيل لك أن معجزة القرآن بناءا على مأثوركم أصبحت محدودة بكم كمسلمين ومع ظهور وتطور مناهج البحث العلمي أصبح القرآن متناقضا وليس بمعجز.
فهل عندك جواب يا سندي أم توافق كولد تسهير على نتيجة بحثه
وتكتفي بالدفاع عن الخليفة وصبيانه

انا لا يمكنني ان احاسب كولد تسهير على قناعته بالنتيجة التي توصل اليها لانه اعتمد على شبكة مترابطة من المعلومات التاريخية للمفسرين وما نقلوه من اخبار مأثورة
وبنظره انها صحيحة
ومن وجهة نظري عمله كباحث لا غبار عليه

لكن عند النقد الرد السليم والمنطقي لا بد من الرجوع الى شبكة المعلومات التي اعتمد عليها الباحث وبيان مدى ارتباطها بالشخص المنتج للمعلومات وموقعه ودوره في الاحداث حقيقة او ابراز شبكات معلومات اخرى أهم تجاهلها الباحث لغاية ما قد لا تخدم نتيجته التي يريد


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