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مناقشة لكتاب Die Richtungen der Islamischen Koranauslegung
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مناقشة لكتاب Die Richtungen der Islamischen Koranauslegung
اقتباس:  إبراهيم   كتب/كتبت  
عندما أقرأ هذا النص مترجماً فأتمنى أن الترجمة أقرب ما تكون للحرفية و لا أملك النص الألماني لـ جولدتسيهر. لكن لو لم يكن هناك "عدم ثبات" فما هو تفسيرك للمتشابه منه؟ الآيات نوعان: محكمات وأخر متشابهات.

تحياتي عزيزي ابراهيم وأعتذر عن التأخير

الذي يقصده جولدتسيهر من "عدم الثبات" هو أن القرآن تعرض للزيادة والنقص ، وليس مقصده المتشابه كما فهمتُ أنا منه .


اقتباس:  إبراهيم   كتب/كتبت  
لا نملك بردية للقرآن. كان القرآن محفوظا في صدور المؤمنين وطرق لا تضمن الدقة. هذا معقول لو أخذنا في الاعتبار تلك الحقبة وإمكانيات التدوين في الجزيرة العربية وانشغال المسلمين الأوائل بالجهاد. ما هو مكتوب أعلاه كلام يصلح للقبول والاقتناع به إيمانيا فقط؛ أما من جهة التحقيق في المخطوطات لأي نص قديم فيصعب قبوله على علاته. لهذا يوجد علم في نقد المخطوطات القديمة اسمه textual criticism.

لا يمكن تطبيق النقد الأدنى - الذي اتبعه المفكرون الغربيون مع الكتاب المقدس للتأكد من سلامة النص - مع القرآن ، فسلامة النص القرآني تعتمد بالدرجة الأولى على حفظه في الصدور ، حيث نقل إلينا محفوظاً في صدور الصحابة ، وكلها منقول بالأسانيد المتصلة ، أما توثيق النص كتابة فتأتي في المرتبة الثانية .

اقتباس:  إبراهيم   كتب/كتبت  
لا ننكر أنه تم حفظه بدقة شديدة ولكن كأي نص قديم يتعرض لمشاكل النصوص عند التحليل النقدي. لو قال لي الأخ رحمة هنا إن مصحف عثمان تم حفظه بدقة شديدة ويُعول عليه فربما أقتنع ولكني سمعت أن الخميني كان يقرأ من مصحف فاطمة إلى لحظة وفاته. قضية تعدد المصاحف منطقية و رفضها هو رفض إمكانيات جمع النصوص التي تحدث للنصوص القديمة عامة أي أنه لابد أن يكون هناك أكثر من more than one rescension.

المعتمد هو النص المنقول تواتراً محفوظاً في الصدور يتلقاه التلميذ عن شيخه مشافهة إلى رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم ، أما ما عدا ذلك فلا يُقبل ، إذا لا يعجز أن يدعي أي شخص بأن عنده قرآن فاطمة أو مصحف فلان .

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07-21-2006, 08:48 PM
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