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المشاركات: 8,439
الانضمام: Apr 2005
مشاركة: #25
الخميني : يجوز مفاخذة الرضيعة
روميو :

الاية واضحة جدا
اذ اعتبرت المراة كلها حرثا
و لو ان التحريم بسبب ضرورة الاتيان فى مكان النسل فقط لاصبح اى مكان اخر محرما .
انا توقفت عن النقاش للاسباب الواهية التى يتحجج بها ابو عاصم .
يعنى من الواضح ان علماء السنة منهم من ساند التحليل و لكن ماذا نفعل مع اتباع الهوى .
اثبتنا له ان الشافعى اباح اتيان الدبر للمراة فيجيبك بانه اباح موضع الدبر
و كان الشافعى و العلماء عجزوا عن التعبير كما عبر ابو عاصم .
ثم ان مسالة الاتيان قرب الدبر او بين الاليتين ليس محلا للخلاف حتى يفصلها الشافعى و لكن ما تقول بمن يقدم هكذا اجابات الا ترك الحوار .
و اتيته باقوال كبار العلماء و لكن تبين ان ابا صالح يفوق هؤلاء العلماء بالقدرة على التصحيح
و اخيرا :
كراهية الائمة الشديدة لفعل كفيل بان يجعل الشيعة المتدينين يمتنعون عن هذا الفعل .
و من يفعله لا نشنع عليه و نعتقد بان الانسان يجوز له ممارسة الجنس مع زوجه كيف يشاءان .

ابو عاصم :
ابن عباس اعتبر ابن عمر واهما لانه خالف ما افتى به هو .
ابو سعيد الخدرى وافق ابن عمر .
اما ترك البخارى للموضع فارغا فلان البخارى قاعدته الحفاظ على كرامة الصحابة و تركه الروايات التى تسئ اليهم و اقتطاعه من الرواية التى تفضح صحابيا او لا يذكره بالاسم .
و هنا لا يريد البخارى فضح ابن عمر اذ يعتبر البخارى هذا الفعل كفرا كما جاء فى روايات اخرى .
و اراك هنا تضعف رجال صحيح البخارى
على كل حال
انا منسحب من الحوار فقد غلبتنى :9:


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