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بحث فى مصطلح ابن الله فى العهد الجديد
الزميل eeww



Array(جميع الترجمات التى تعتمد على الاكتشافات الحديثة تحذف النص او تذكر فى الهامش انه غير موجود فى بعض المخطوطات. ) انتهى و هذا هو ما اعنيه من الاصل و لم يغير فى البحث شيئا و اقبل اى تعديل او حتى تصحيح من اى شخص يحترم عقله و يحترم الحقيقة و يسعى للوصول اليها .[/quote]

ساعتبر هذا اطراءا

و لكن هذا الجملة العظيم و هذا التعديل الرخيم لم يخبرنا
1- ما هي الاكتشافات الحديثة ( فما اكتشه وستكوت اكتشفه بروس )
2- ما هي الترجمات التى تعتمد علي الاكتشافات الحديثة و ما هو الدليل علي اعتمادها علي المكتشفات الحديثة ؟
3- ( نقطة اساسية ) ان اختارت ال ( ترجمات الحديثة ) ان تحذف ما هو غير موجود في (بعض المخطوطات ) و موجود في ( مخطوطات اخرى )و قبل علماء المسيحية هذا
فمازال حضرتك لم تفسر ما موقفك من ( الدراسات القديمة ) التى تخبرنا بتفرد ( ليس بعض الافراد بل فرد واحد ) ولا يوجد عند اي راو اخر للوحي الثاني ( الحديث ) ؟


( راجع مثال ايوب )

اظن ان نفس العلماء ان اخذوا الوحى الاسلامى لغربلوه

و ان اخذ علماء الاسلام الوحى المسيحي لابقوا عليه

و هذا اختلاف اكيد بين المدرستين و العجب - و هو ما احاول ان اخبرك به منذ البداية - انك وقعت في مغالطة الجمع بين النقيضين

فانت تجمع بين ( اثبات الاسلام لتفرد راو ) - بالرغم من انك لم تتكلم في هذا الموضوع و لكنى افترض انك تعرفه اساسا و تؤمن به- و بين ( انكار علماء مسيحيين لاجتماع مخطوطات علي ما لم يوجد في مخطوطات اخرى ) .

و هذه مغالطتك فانكرها ان امكنك ........................................



مزحة جديدة يتفتق بها عقل الزميل فيقول
ArrayElberfelder (ELB)

Markus 1
1 Anfang des Evangeliums Jesu Christi;

تحذف تماما النص محل البحث لنفرض ان هناك مسيحى المانى بسيط يقرا هذه النسخة و ليس عنده غيرها و يقرا الكتاب الذى اشرت اليه E. C. Hoskyns (1931), cited by Kealy, op. ci

[إن بلوغ القمة في تنسيق مرقس لإنجيله جاءت في اعتراف قائد المئة: «حقـًّا كان هذا الإنسان ابن الله»، ولكن الأعجب أن يأتي هذا اللقب عينه في افتتاحية إنجيله.] هوسكنز
( ) E. C. Hoskyns (1931), cited by Kealy, op. ci

[u] لان الانجيل الذى يقرا منه و هو واثق انه منقول عن الاصل لا يجد فيه مصطلح ابن الله فى افتتاحية مرقص .........


[/quote]

يا للروعة

يتخيل الزميل هنا انه في (المانيا ) معقل (المدرسة الالمانية ) سيوجد هذا المسيحي الغلبان
الذي لا يملك الا هذه النسخة الغلبانة
و لانه غلبان فسينكر علم العالم الغلبان
و يلقى بكتابه في السلة



فقط وددت ابراز قولك هذا
ليعلم القارئ من هو الغلبان


فاحيانا الكلام يعبر عن نفسه



و بعد ذلك
اخذ الزميل يجول و يصول في ترجمات حذفت المصطلح ( دون ان يحدد هذه الترجمة اعتمدت علي اي اكتشاف حديث فقط هي قائمة ممتلكات )
و ترجمات وضعت تعليقات علي المصطلح يود اضافتها الي قائمته التى يبدو انه يفخر بها

اتعلم ايها الزميل
ضفنى ايضا الي قائمتك و يمكنك ان تضيف طوب الارض
و لا تغير من قناعاتك
ولا تغير من اي شئ



و قل متى شئت

جميع الترجمات الحديثة تحذف المصطلح

ووقتها اتهمنى انا بالتدليس


حقا لا اجد ما ادافع به عن نفسي


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