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ثم ان شهادة بطرس لا تصلح لانه شيطان و معثرة ليسوع حسب كلام يسوع نفسه بعد خمسة اعداد فقط من قول بطرس انت ابن الله يقول له يسوع انت شيطان و حسب كلامنا نحن لا ناخذ شهادة شياطين او مجانين ...
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السيد المسيح أمتدح بطرس لان عرف بالروح القدس أنه ابن الله و لكن عندما أنكر بطرس أمكانية صلب السيد المسيح و موته كما يفعل البعض نهره السيد المسيح لان هذا كلام الشيطان الذي ألقاه على لسان بطرس الرسول .

السيد المسيح أمتدح وحي روح الله و لكنه نهر و رفض كلام الشيطان و طبعا الفارق واضح .

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لم يؤكد يسوع انه ابن الله بل اشار الى نفسه بابن الانسان ؟؟؟ و حكاية انت قلت يكررها يسوع كثيرا و هى طبعا لا تثبت شيئا من الامور محل البحث .... و لا نعرف ماذا يقصد يسوع من قوله من الان هل يعنى من الفين سنة ام الان ام فى المستقبل ام لا تعنى شيئا على الاطلاق..
أما موضوع أنه قائم عن يمين الله فهذه لم يراها أحد على الاطلاق
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تعبير انت قلت الذي ذكره السيد المسيح هو عبارة عن تأكيد لكلام رئيس الكهنة و هو أشبه بقولنا في اللغة العربية : أي نعم أو قولنا : تمام أو قولنا : مضبوط .

ثم اكد السيد المسيح مرة ثانية على لاهوته بقوله انه سيكون : عن يمين الله و هو تعبير يستخدم لتأكيد المساواة في القدرة و الكرامة و اللاهوت مع الآب لتأكيد وحدة لاهوت الابن مع الآب .

ولهذا لو راجعت باقي الآيات تجد أن رئيس الكهنة شق ثيابه علامة على رفض هذا التجديف من وجهة نظره و نظر الشريعة و قال : ما حاجتنا بعد الى شهود قد سمعتم التجاديف بنفسكم و طلب صلبه .

راجع التالي :

مرقس 14 : 63فَمَزَّقَ رَئِيسُ الْكَهَنَةِ ثِيَابَهُ وَقَالَ: «مَا حَاجَتُنَا بَعْدُ إِلَى شُهُودٍ؟ 64قَدْ سَمِعْتُمُ التَّجَادِيفَ! مَا رَأْيُكُمْ؟» فَالْجَمِيعُ حَكَمُوا عَلَيْهِ أَنَّهُ مُسْتَوْجِبُ الْمَوْتِ. 65فَابْتَدَأَ قَوْمٌ يَبْصُقُونَ عَلَيْهِ وَيُغَطُّونَ وَجْهَهُ وَيَلْكُمُونَهُ وَيَقُولُونَ لَهُ: «تَنَبَّأْ». وَكَانَ الْخُدَّامُ يَلْطِمُونَهُ.

أما الكلام المدلس على أن أحد لم يرى السيد المسيح عن يمين الله فهو أيضا تلفيق و تلفيق من كاتب المقال و يعتمد فيه على ان القارئ المسلم لن يراجع الكلام من وراءه لأن القديس اسطفانوس اول الشهداء رأى السيد المسيح قائما عن يمن العظمة قبل رجمه و من فضلك راجع التالي :

أعمال الرسل 7 : 49السَّمَاءُ كُرْسِيٌّ لِي وَالأَرْضُ مَوْطِئٌ لِقَدَمَيَّ. أَيَّ بَيْتٍ تَبْنُونَ لِي يَقُولُ الرَّبُّ وَأَيٌّ هُوَ مَكَانُ رَاحَتِي؟ 50أَلَيْسَتْ يَدِي صَنَعَتْ هَذِهِ الأَشْيَاءَ كُلَّهَا؟ 51«يَا قُسَاةَ الرِّقَابِ وَغَيْرَ الْمَخْتُونِينَ بِالْقُلُوبِ وَالآذَانِ أَنْتُمْ دَائِماً تُقَاوِمُونَ الرُّوحَ الْقُدُسَ. كَمَا كَانَ آبَاؤُكُمْ كَذَلِكَ أَنْتُمْ. 52أَيُّ الأَنْبِيَاءِ لَمْ يَضْطَهِدْهُ آبَاؤُكُمْ وَقَدْ قَتَلُوا الَّذِينَ سَبَقُوا فَأَنْبَأُوا بِمَجِيءِ الْبَارِّ الَّذِي أَنْتُمُ الآنَ صِرْتُمْ مُسَلِّمِيهِ وَقَاتِلِيهِ 53الَّذِينَ أَخَذْتُمُ النَّامُوسَ بِتَرْتِيبِ مَلاَئِكَةٍ وَلَمْ تَحْفَظُوهُ؟». 54فَلَمَّا سَمِعُوا هَذَا حَنِقُوا بِقُلُوبِهِمْ وَصَرُّوا بِأَسْنَانِهِمْ عَلَيْهِ. 55وَأَمَّا هُوَ فَشَخَصَ إِلَى السَّمَاءِ وَهُوَ مُمْتَلِئٌ مِنَ الرُّوحِ الْقُدُسِ فَرَأَى مَجْدَ اللهِ وَيَسُوعَ قَائِماً عَنْ يَمِينِ اللهِ. 56فَقَالَ: «هَا أَنَا أَنْظُرُ السَّمَاوَاتِ مَفْتُوحَةً وَابْنَ الإِنْسَانِ قَائِماً عَنْ يَمِينِ اللهِ». 57فَصَاحُوا بِصَوْتٍ عَظِيمٍ وَسَدُّوا آذَانَهُمْ وَهَجَمُوا عَلَيْهِ بِنَفْسٍ وَاحِدَةٍ 58وَأَخْرَجُوهُ خَارِجَ الْمَدِينَةِ وَرَجَمُوهُ. وَالشُّهُودُ خَلَعُوا ثِيَابَهُمْ عِنْدَ رِجْلَيْ شَابٍّ يُقَالُ لَهُ شَاوُلُ. 59فَكَانُوا يَرْجُمُونَ اسْتِفَانُوسَ وَهُوَ يَدْعُو وَيَقُولُ: «أَيُّهَا الرَّبُّ يَسُوعُ اقْبَلْ رُوحِي». 60ثُمَّ جَثَا عَلَى رُكْبَتَيْهِ وَصَرَخَ بِصَوْتٍ عَظِيمٍ: «يَا رَبُّ لاَ تُقِمْ لَهُمْ هَذِهِ الْخَطِيَّةَ». وَإِذْ قَالَ هَذَا رَقَدَ.

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