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بحث فى مصطلح ابن الله فى العهد الجديد
عزيزي eeww2000 , الاخوة الافضل

كيف حالك أرجو من الله ان تكون بأفضل حال

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الاسماء الحسنى ليست اقانيم بل صفات لذات الله الواحدة و تستطيع ان تضع الرحمان بدل الرحيم و قد اباح لنا الله سبحانه و تعالى ان ندعوه بها فهل اباح لك يهوه ان تدعوه باقنوم واحد من اقانيمه التى تعتقد بها ؟؟؟؟؟؟ و هل اباح لك ان تكون عبد للمسيح الذى ارسله يهوه ؟؟؟؟؟.
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سأرد بأختصار لان هذا الموضوع يشتتنا عن الموضوع الرئيسي الذي هو لفظ ابن الله في العهد الجديد

لفظ الآب ( وحده ) لا يعبر عن كل ما يفعله الله في الكون
لفظ الابن ( وحده ) لا يعبر عن كل ما يفعله الله في الكون
لفظ الروح المعزي ( وحده ) لا يعبر عن كل ما يفعله الله في الكون

و لكن كل من هذه الالفاظ منفردا هو أقنوم من أقانيم الله لهذا تصلح تسمية عبد الله و عبد المسيح و عبد المعزي و عبد الباراقليط .


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وهل تستطيع انت ان تضع الابن بدل الاب بمعنى هل يستطيع الابن ان يرسل الاب فى مهمة الى الارض و يجعل الاب يصلب على الصليب و يصرخ طالبا مساعدة الابن كما ارسل الاب الابن ......................!
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لا لأن كل أقنوم له دور ووظيفة .

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و هل تستطيع ان تدعو يسوع الاب او الروح القدس ؟؟؟؟؟
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سيدي الفاضل نحن ندعو الرب يهوه بالتالي : يهوه الآب , يهوه الابن , يهوه المعزي
و بالتالي فأن الدعوة مخصصة لذات واحدة و بالتالي لا تستطيع أن تخلط الصفات الذاتية بعضها البعض .


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انا استطيع ان ادعو الله الرحمن او الرحيم او الملك او القدوس او السلام و لكنه سبحانه و تعالى الذى اباح لى ذلك ...........
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و أنا أستطيع ان ادعو الرب يهوه الاصل و الابن و المعزي لانه سبحانه أباح لي ذلك .


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الرد : وحتى الفداء على حسب اعتقادك الاب له الفضل الاكبر و ليس الابن لماذا ؟
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من قال ان للآب الفضل الاكبر في الفداء ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟

الله الواحد هو الذي قدم حياة الابن لذاته عوضا عن حياة البشرية فهو الابن و هو الآب
أيضا فكيف يكون له فضل أكبر على ذاته ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟



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هل الابن اسم ام اقنوم او وظيفة ؟؟؟؟؟؟
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هو اسم لاقنوم ووظيفة يقوم بها الله .


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انت بعبادتك للمسيح فقط اهملت الجوانب الاخرى لله و تعليق صورة المسيح على الصليب لا تمثل يهوه و لا تمثل الاب ولا الروح القدس و هذا اهمال واضح .
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مرة أخرى من قال أننا نعبد الابن فقط ؟؟؟؟؟

راجع قانون الايمان المسيحي .

عبد المسيح
05-14-2007, 02:37 PM
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