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العزيز زيد
Array...................
يعني عدم تواتر هذا التفرد عن عاصم
.................

لا يوجد دليل للتأكيد على النفي. لا يشترط على الإمام أن يذكر من أخذ عنه ما تفرد به[/quote]

انا اقول
عدم تواتر هذا التفرد عن عاصم

هل هذا التفرد متواتر عن عاصم ؟



انت قلت
Arrayلا يؤخذ هذا العلم إلا ممن اشتغلوا به. المفسر جاء بعدهم بعصور، [/quote]

ثم

Array..................
من اول من سمى ب (عالم قراءات ) و متى ؟
.................

القراءات منشأها على يد الرسول بأمر من الله وقد أثبتُ ذلك ثم أخذها الصحابة عن الرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم ثم دونوها في المصاحف العثمانية وعلموها للأمة. أما نسب كل قراءة لإمام من الأئمة العشرة ذلك لشهرة كل إمام بقرائته. أما بداية دراسة القراءات بقصد التأريخ لها فقد تم قبل ابن مجاهد بكثير.[/quote]

قياسا عليك فان المفسر لم يأت بعدهم ولا يحزنون
فالتفسير منشأه على يد الرسول ثم اخذ الصحابة عن الرسول اما نسب كل تفسير لامام و ذلك لشهره كل امام بتفسيره !!!!


ما هذا الذي تكتب زيد ؟
بداية دراسة القراءات تم قبل ابن مجاهد ؟

ما هذا القول ؟

انت تجعل من ال القراءات اسبق على ال التفسير
و حجتك ان القراءة منشأها على يد محمد ؟

و حجتك الثانية ان ال القراءات قد جاءوا قبل ابن مجاهد بكثير ؟

هل ترى ان هذه اجابة ؟



انت قلت في مداخلة 125

Arrayراجعت بعض مداخلاتك ص 10 ووجدت أنك تقتبس من الطبري (وليس من القرطبي). لكن اقتباسك من الطبري كان ناقصًا بدرجة أضرت بشدة بما يفهمه القاريء عن رأي الطبري.[/quote]

ثم قلت اخيرا

Arrayكان يجب عليك أن تقتبس ما ساقه الطبري من أراء أخر وقد اوردتُها (أنا) أعلاه:[/quote]

1- من قال اننى اقتبس من القرطبي لتصحح لي ؟ ( ان كان هذا تصحيحا )
2- هذا هو رابط تفسير الطبري

http://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhN...ge=2&Size=1

قال الطبري
والقراءة التي لا أستجيز غيرها: { وكذلكَ زَيَّنَ لِكَثِيرٍ مِنَ المُشْرِكيِنَ قَتْلَ أوْلادِهِمْ شُرَكاؤهُمْ } بفتح الزاي من «زيَّن» ونصب «القتل» بوقوع «زيَّن» عليه وخفض «أولادهم» بإضافة «القتل» إليهم، ورفع «الشركاء» بفعلهم لأنهم هم الذين زينوا للمشركين قتل أولادهم على ما ذكرت من التأويل.

رأي الطبري واضح حتى لو نقل تأويلات المخالفين
الطبرى بالفعل نقل اراء المخالفين التى تفضلت انت بنقلها

و لكن رأيه واضح
جدا


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