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زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى
العزيز ( يجعله عامر )
لك شكرى على سؤالك
و تحياتي

اعتقد ان الرد لا يهمهم اطلاقا خاصة ان الوضع مقزز و تكلمت فيه مرارا

احاول في كل مرة تعرضت للموضوع مناقشة الاطر العامة دون الدخول في متاهة التفاصيل

و بدأت هذه القصة الاخيرة عندما نشر ( فادي ) ملف اكروبات بعنوان ( بردية تتحدى )
جذب الامر ( العميد ) فاعد تعليقا على بردية واحدة من كل النص
تدخل احدهم و بين مخالفة ( في سياق القصة ) مع ما يحيط بها
فتدخل العميد مرة اخرى مصدقا ما بين يديه
و اخيرا جاء ee و لم يفعل اكثر من اخذ بعض ما كتبه ( فادي ) و التعليق عليه بشئ من ( السوقية ) بحسب رؤيتي


فبم ترد لو كنت مكاني ؟


اعطيك احد الامثلة

يقول ee
Arrayثم إنه ليس الكذب فقط هو ما خرج به فادي في هذه القضية الخاسرة المخزية ، بل الجهل أيضًا كان له نصيب وافر ، فإنه في وضعه النص باليونانية وتلوينه باللون الأحمر وقع بجهل أشد ، وهو أنه " ουδεις - oudeis وضع كلمة
التي تعني " لا أحد " - باللون الأحمربينما المفروض أنه يلوِّن كلمة
" κυριε[/quote]

مع انه نفسه يقول
Arrayو صاحب الموقع الاصلى (الذى ينقل عنه الباحث كل موضوعاته بلا دراسة او وعى) [/quote]

فإن عرف ee ان ( فادي ) مترجم قد خلت من قبله المترجمين
فكيف يتهمه بانه قد ( لون كلمة مغايرة ) ؟

هذا هو ee الذي اعرفه

و من حوله حاشية غريبة الشكل الا من رحم ربي


سيدي العزيز
ارى تحطيما كاملا لاصول الابحاث سببها انفصال الكاتب عما حوله

يقول مثلا في احد اصوله الغريبة

Arrayاولا يجب ان نوضح ان اقتباسات الاباء لايمكن اخذها اصلا الا قرينة [/quote]

و هذا كلام بال عليه الزمن من عقود
بل لو كلف الزميل نفسه بقراءة مواضيع هذا النادي فقط لعدل عن كلامه

انظر مثلا هذا الشريط
http://www.nadyelfikr.net/index.php?showto...#1583;&st=0

تكلمت فيه عما اسميته ( تحريف مسند احمد )

و كان اختيار العميد بناءا على ( 1- المحققين ) ( 2- نقل العلماء )

و قد ذكرت مثالا في هذا الشريط
http://www.nadyelfikr.net/index.php?showtopic=50110

الذي وضعته لمناقشة بعض اقوال ee و بعض الاصول

و هذا المثال بخصوص كلمة ( الدبر ) المحذوفة من كل نسخ البخارى
لم يفت الحافظ ابن حجر ان يعلق على افتراض الحميدي كلمة مغايرة في كتابه ( الجمع بين الصحيحين )

و هذا كتاب توفيقي بين الصحيحين مثله مثل ( الدياسترون ) الذي كتب يوما ما للجمع بين الاناجيل الاربعة

فان كان لكتب الجمع بما بها من ( تصرفات ) هذه الاهمية
فما قولك في عالم يؤكد وجود ( نص ما )

هل تقول ان هذه مجرد ( قرينة )
و ان تعدد العلماء

هل تبقى قرينة ايضا ؟
ام يجب البحث عن سبب الحذف في المخطوطات


هذا هو ما فعلته قياسا هنا
http://www.nadyelfikr.net/index.php?showtopic=50110


جمعت اسباب الحذف و طرقه
بينت اعتماده لدى الشرقيين
بينت كيف يمكن ان يكون ( قرينة ) على صحة النص


لذلك
ما قيمة رد كلمات قالها ee وهو سهل , و الاصول التى يسير عليها فاسدة في الاساس

لا يوافق عليها علماء الاسلام اطلاقا


ان ابسط نصيحة اقدمها للمسلم او المسيحي او المهتم بمثل هذه المسائل ان اراد معرفة الطرق ال conservative


اقرأ ( فتح الباري ) للحافظ العبقري ابن حجر
و تعلم طريقة ( حل المشكلات )

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و راح العدل ضحية


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