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تحية سلام للجميع..

على المستوى الشخصي سيكون لي الفخر والشرف لو قامت السلطات الدينية في بلدي باستتابتي ثم تصفيتي كمرتد لا يؤمن بإلــه بشري طفولي تافه ضيق العقل والأفق يستفزه أفراداً من ضعاف البشر فيلجأ إلى هجائهم وشتمهم من عليائه على صفحات كتابه وهو مستوٍ مستلقٍ على عــرش ذو قوائم يخشى أن يسقط على الأرض بتأثير الجاذبية فيقوم بتأجير أربعة ملائكة حمّــــاليـــن لعرشه حتى لا يسقط هو ومن عليه على الأرض فتحصل كارثة كونية بشرية لم يسبق لها مثيل!!

تطبيق حد الردة على من ورث الإسلام ليس هو مشكلة الدين الإسلامي بحد ذاته. طيب ماهو الإسلام يشرع عقود العبودية (ملك اليمين) ونكاحهم غصباً عنهم ، ويشرع حدود التعذيب بحجة التطهير كالرجم والجلد ، وحدود تشويه أطراف الجسـد الإنساني كقطع الأيدي والأرجل من خلاف .. وهي في رأيي حدود وتشريعات لا تقل بشاعة عن قتل شخص لمجرد عدم اقتناعه بفكره معينة ورثها من أبويه..

فالمشكلة كما أراها ليست هنا -أي في تطبيق حد الردة على من ورث الدين ولم يقتنع بما ورثه-. المشكلة هي في الانتقائية الغير مبررة على من يتم تطبيق حد القتل عليه. لو كان الإسلام مثلاً لا يقبل بالوجود المسيحي واليهودي على أرضه نهائياً ويحث على قتلهم أو نفيهم خارجاً بدلاً من معاملتهم كأهل ذمة مطالبين بدفع الجزية لما كان هناك مشكلة..

لكن عندما يقبل الإسلام مثلاً بعيش المسيحي -الأصلي- أو اللاديني -الأصلي- على أرضه ، لكنه في نفس الوقت يمنع أي شخص مسلم من تغيير عقيدته التي ورثها ولم يقتنع بها إلى عقيدة أخرى ولا يوجد لديه حل إلا بأن يهاجر بعيداً في حين أن أبناء نفس هذا المعتقد الذي تحول إليه لا يزال بإمكانهم العيش تحت ظل هذه الدولة الإسلامية فهذا هو الغباء والحمق بعينه!!

طيب يعني فهمنا أن المصري المسلم مثلاً إذا أعلن تحوله إلى المسيحية أو اللادينية أو البهائية أو عبد البقر أو الحجر أو الشجر فهو كمن تبرأ من جنسيته المصرية واستبدلها بالجنسية الإسرائيلية.. لا مشكلة في هذا التشبيه حتى الآن .. لكن الانتقائية الغير مبررة هي في أن دينك يقبل بوجود أصحاب هؤلاء الأديان الأخرى -التي قد يتحول إليها المرتد- وعيشهم تحت ظل حكمه ، لكن هل تستطيع أن تقول بأنه سيقبل بوجود أصحاب الجنسية الإسرائيلية على أرضه ومعاملتهم تماماً كما لو أنهم مصريين يهود أو مصريين مسيحيين؟!
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