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نعم انه ليس زمن حوار الاديان بل زمن تعدد الآلهة فى صورة جديدة
Array
كلامك مستفذ وهو ما يدعو للرد عليه باسلوب اكثر استفزازا....[/quote]
أين الاستفزاز بالضبط؟
عندما يكتب شخص في المنتدى بأنه مؤمن بقتل المرتد. طيب أنا مُـــرتــــد وأفتخر بذلك وأعتبره وسام شرف على صدري ، ماذا تتوقع مني إذاً أن أفعل حيال هذا الكائن الذي يؤمن من قلبه خالصاً بجواز قتلي؟ أقل شيء ياعزيزي أن أمثل بجثته حياً إذا وقع في يدي ، صدقني هذا أقل شيء بالنسبة لي.

Arrayاولا: من انت حتى يكون عندك بمسلم او ليس بمسلم؟؟[/quote]
أنا read.

Arrayثانيا : من اجل ارضاءك فهل يتوجب علينا ان ناخذ الاسلام منك؟[/quote]
أنا كتبت ما أعتقده حول الإسلام. وأعتبر أن الإيمان بحد الردة هو من المعلوم من الدين بالضرورة. وإنكاره كفر وخروج من الملة. وبصراحة أنا شايف كده إنو الإسلام بدون حد ردة ما يسواش حبة مليم مخروم. يعني لن يكون له لا طعم ولا ذوق.

Arrayثالثا : كيف يتبرا ممن يشهد بانه لا اله الا الله وان محمدا رسول الله مخالفا للاسلام؟؟[/quote]
افهم جيداً ما أقوله أولاً قبل أن تسترسل في التعليق. أنا قلت أن من لا يريد أن يُلصَق به مصطلح "مسلم" يجب أولاً أن يُكفّر ويتبرأ ممن يؤمن بحد الردة. لأن المسلم عندي هو فقط من شهد الشهادتين وآمن بحد الردة خالصاً لوجه الله أو سكت ولم يتبرأ ممن يؤمنون به.

Arrayرابعا : من لايؤمنون بحد الرده هم قله قليله , فان تبرؤا ممن يؤمنون به اصبحوا هم ايضا مرتدين لانكارهم ماهو معلوم من الدين بالضروره وذلك فى نظر القائلين بحد الرده , وهم يتبراون ونحن نتبرا , وهم يكفرون ونحن نكقر , وتنشا طائفه اخرى جديده من المسلمين بالاضافه الى طوائفهم, وكله يكفر بعضه.[/quote]
مش مشكلة خليه كلو يكفر بعضه ومالو يعني؟ مش حاجة جديدة!!
أهم شيء أن لا يوجد على ظهر الكوكب من يعتقد بقتل إنسان ما بسبب معتقده هذا هو أهم شيء في الوجود والباقي مش مهم.

Arrayكما قلت لك : من انت؟؟[/quote]
أنا read.

Arrayانا لا يهمنى انت ...[/quote]
وأنا لا يهمني ما تسميه "اسلامك المتسامح". الإسلام الحق عندي هو الإسلام السلفي على منهج السلف الصالح وحسب أفهامهم. أما "إسلامك" الجديد هذا فالحقيقة أني أراه إسلام معدل ومهجّن جينياً على النسخة الأوروبية أو كما يُطلق عليه Euro-Islam.

Arrayانا يهمنى فى المقام الاول دينى الاسلامى , ودينى هذا برىء من كل ما الصقوه به , فالرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم لم ياتى الا مبشرا ونذيرا , وجاء مذكرا لا مسيطرا , وجاء رحمه وهدايه للناس اجمعين.[/quote]
وأنا يهمني في المقام الأول أن لا يًُقتل شخص ما بسبب دينه ومعتقده. وليذهب هذا الشيء المدعو اللـه وأنبيائه وأديانه إلى الجحيم. أهم شيء في الوجود هو الإنسان والروبوتات والحيوانات فقط لا غير ، وطــز في الباقي.

Arrayهل هناك عاقل فى راسه ذره من عقل , يقرا تلك الايه ويتدبرها جيدا ثم يقول بان هناك مايسمى بحد الرده؟؟[/quote]
طيب يعني إذا نطلّك واحد سلفي من إياهم ولم يرَ في الآيات ما تراه أنت ، مالحل معه إذا؟ ناقشتَه مراراً وحاولتَ إقناعه لكنه مصر على رأيه ويرى جواز قتلي كمرتد؟ أنا لن أخرج من أرضي وأرض أجدادي أبــداً وليخرج هو وجماعته إن أرادوا ذلك!! وعند النزاع وعدم الوصول لحل يرضي الطرفين فلن تُحسم المسألة إلا بالحرب والغزو والبقاء في هذه الحالة للأقوى وليس للأصلح كما في نظرية دارون.

Arrayالله يعينكم[/quote]
آمين. دائماً محتاجين لدعواتكم وصلواتكم.
08-04-2008, 12:51 AM
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