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نعم انه ليس زمن حوار الاديان بل زمن تعدد الآلهة فى صورة جديدة
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نعم انه ليس زمن حوار الاديان بل زمن تعدد الآلهة فى صورة جديدة
:icon_eek:

الأن فقط انتبهت لهذه المشـاركة !

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كل الديانات سماويه وغير سماويه تنسب صنيعه هذا الكون لله , وكل اصحاب مله يصفون الله بطريقتهم الخاصه وبقدر ما تستوعبه عقولهم ...
فعلى سبيل المثال فهناك قبيله الماو ماو الاستوائيه , واحدة من القبائل الكبرى في إفريقيا وتسكن الغابات الإستوائية ولها الكثير من العادات والتقاليد الغريبة والعجيبة ,وعندما نقرأ عنهم نجد أنهم يؤمنون بإله يسمونه " موجايى " ويصفونه بأنه واحد أحد لم يلد ولم يولد وليس له كفو ولا شبيه , وأنه لا يرى ولا يعرف إلا من آثاره وأفعاله , وأنه خالق رازق وهاب رحيم يشفي المريض وينجد المأزوم وينزل المطر ويسمع الدعاء ويصفونه بأن البرق خنجره والرعد وقع خطاه.
أليس هذا الـ "موجايى " هو إلهنا بعينه ؟؟

وفى قبيله الشيلوك,وقبيلة الشيلوك هى واحدة من كبرى القبائل السودانية فى الجنوب بعد الدنكا والنوبر، ومنها مثقفون وسياسيون أبرزهم د/ لام أكول وزير خارجية السودان السابق، وفي قبيلة الشيلوك يؤمنون بإله واحد يسمونه " جوك " ويصفونه بأنه خفي وظاهر , وأنه في السماء وفي كل مكان وأنه خالق كل شيء.
وفي قبيلة الدنكا يؤمنون بإله واحد يسمونه " نيالاك " وهي كلمة ترجمتها الحرفية , الذي في السماء , أو الأعلى.
ماذا نسمي هذه العقائد إلا أنها إسلام.
وماذا تكون إلا رسالات كان لها في تاريخ هؤلاء الأقوام رسل؟؟

(( وَإِن مِّنْ أُمَّةٍ إِلَّا خلَا فِيهَا نَذِيرٌ (24) )) فاطر.
(( وَلَقَدْ بَعَثْنَا فِي كُلِّ أُمَّةٍ رَّسُولاً (36) )) النحل.

فمن أين جاءهم هذا العلم إلا أن يكون في تاريخهم رسول ومبلغ جاء به , ثم تقادم عليه العهد كالمعتاد فدخلت الخرافات والشعوذات فشوهت هذا النقاء الديني؟؟
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يا عاشق ... يا عاشق أنت غاوي تعذبني ؟:mellow: ثم وضح لي لماذا أهل هذا الدار يخشونك هكذا !!


خلاص هذه القبائل أصبحت مسلمة أو أنها تتبع إلهك في أسوء التوقعات !
يعني علماء التأريخ البشري و cultural anthropologyوmythology تجدهم ون عقوداً من أعمارهم في البحث وتقصي في المختبرات والسفر الى تلك المجتمعات لدراستها عن كثب وفي النهاية يتردد في البوح بفكرته أو نظريته لأنه يعتقد ان بها بعض الثغرات وأسئلة لا يستطيع الأجابة عليها ، كل هذا خوفاً على مكانته العلمية وسُمعته .
ثم وبكل بساطة آتي وأدعي انهم يعبدون إلهي أنا ، وكل دليلي هو بضع امور مشتركة بين الشيء الذي أقدسه وبين ما يعبدون

و لو قرأت عن آلهتهم وأطلعت عليها أكثر ستجد هناك أمور مشتركة بينهم وبين ألهة أديان أخرى لا تمت بصلة لا من قريب ولا من بعيد بإلهك وبدينك ، وطبعاً ليس من المقبول أن يأتو إلينا هم أيضاً مدعين ان تلك القبائل تعبد ألهتهم هم فقط حصراً .

ثم ماذا تقصد يا عشوقي بقولك أن آلهتهم يعطي الرزق والمطر وذو طبيعة خارقة ويشفي الأمراض .. إلخ
مهو طبيعي أن من يعبد شيئاً ما يعبده لحاجته لمثل هذه الأمور ويعتقد أن هذه الأشياء والصفات متوفرة في تلك الكائنات ، وإلا فلما يعبدها أصلاً ؟




عموماً في أقرب فرصة سأحاول أن اتطرق بإسهاب في موضوع قبائل الأفريقية البدأية و عن كيفية تكون الفنون والأديان عندهم وتطورها ، وطبعاً من بينها قبيلة الدنكا وهل هي سودانية الأصل أم من بلاد النيجر .
وأيضاً قبائل الماوماو والتي نشأت عند بحيرة فكتوريا و الحدود الأوغندية الكينية تحديداً
والإله " موكايي" الذي وصفته بالواحد الأحد ، و أبنائه التسعة الذين يجوبون الصحراء ليجذبو الغزلان و يسهلو الصيد للماوماويين حسب معتقداتهم كما يقول

Franz Boas

وأضعه في القسم المناسب وليس في ساحة الحوار اللاديني .
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