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الاحباء النصارى بربكم ماهذا؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟


سلام المسيح رب المجد ..

تحياتي للجميع ..(f)

هذا رد على مداخلة الاخت الكريمة ايثار .. (f)

مداخلة رقم : 92

تبدأ الزميلة كلامها ضاحكة .. وتقول :

اقتباس:رد البابلى بالفعل غاية فى الإضحاك!!!...بل إنه أضحكنى أنا والجالسين من حولى....سؤالك يا عزيزى البابلى فى البداية كان هو إن كان تقيبل الأقدام محرم فلماذا لم ينهى الرسول عداس عن تقبيل أقدامه,ورددت أنا عليك بأن أغلب فروض الإسلام لم تكن قد فرضت.....وأن المطلوب كان التوحيد فقط...تمام كده؟...تقول أنت وهل الفعل الشركى لا يتعارض مع التوحيد؟....السجود لغير الله شرك يا بابلى و عداس لم يسجد للرسول....


سلامي اليك والى جميع الذين يجلسون حولك .. جعل الله ايامهم كلها ضحكاً ..:lol:


وسأزيدكم ضحكاً وسروراً وحبوراً بعد ان اقدم لكم المفاجأة الجميلة التي احضرتها معي ..:present:

عزيزتي ايثار :

كفى عبثاً وهروباً .. الموضوع منتهي من الصفحة الاولى !!!

هذا ان صح ان نسميه " موضوعاً " ..!!

حتى الاخوة المسلمين باتوا ينصحونكم بالتراجع عن هذا الاعوجاج ...!!:no2:

ولكنك للاسف الشديد ما زالت تصرين على العناد .. بغية حفظ ماء وجه صاحب الموضوع الذي لا هم له الا بفتح اكبر قدر ممكن من المواضيع !!!:d:

وهذه المرة دخلتي لتصرخي باعلى صوتك بغضب !!!:angry:

عزيزتي .. اعصابك مو هيك .. صحتك غالية علينا ..!!:97:

تكبيرك للخط هكذا .. دليل ما تعانين منه من اضطراب وغيظ ..!:mad2:

اهداي ..

لقد اصبتك في مقتل انت وعبد الرحمن .. والى الان لم تجدوا رداً ..!!:23:

والان تدخلين لتصرخي .. دون ان تضيفي شيئاً جديداً ..

سوى اعادة للكلام .. بلا .. بلا .. بلا ..


اقتباس:واعيد ثانية,فمن الواضح أن التكرار يفيدك كثيراً..لم تكن أغلب فروض الإسلام قد فرضت,فهل سيعرف الرسول وقتها إن كان تقبيل الأقدام حرام أم لا؟!!!....الصلاة نفسها فرضت فى ليلة المعراج أى بعد حادثة عداس,فهل عدم تقبيل الأقدام أهم من الصلاة ليعرف الرسول حكمه وقتها يا سيد بابلى؟!!!...ثم أن حتى التوحيد وقتها كانت تفاصيله كاالآتى...آمنوا بالله ولا تشركوا به شيئا...بدون تفاصيل أكثر....كان الإسلام مازال فى بداية عهده....كما أن عداس لم يسجد للرسول ليعتبر فعله شركاً فينهاه الرسول...بل قبل قدميه وهذا_كما أسلفت وأعيد ثانية_لم يكن حكمه معروفاً وقتها...


انتبهوا يا قراء يا كرام ..

انتبهوا الله يخليكم ..

اتركوا ما تفبركه الزميلة عن الفروض .. الخ ..
فنحن نتحدث عن عقيدة ..

لاحظوا .. انها تقول وتبني الكثير على مسالة " سجود " عداس من عدمه ..


بقولها :

اقتباس:كما أن عداس لم يسجد للرسول ليعتبر فعله شركاً فينهاه الرسول...بل قبل قدميه وهذا_كما أسلفت وأعيد ثانية_لم يكن حكمه معروفاً وقتها


من تكلم عن نقطة سجود عداس ..؟!!!

اين قلت انا هذا ..؟؟!!!:what:

واريد من الجميع تسجيل هذا الاقرار :

اقتباس:بل قبل قدميه وهذا_كما أسلفت وأعيد ثانية_لم يكن حكمه معروفاً وقتها

لم يكن ماذا ؟؟؟؟؟!!!!


ماذا ؟؟؟

" حكمه " !!!!


الم اقل لك يا ايثار .. تمالكي اعصابك واهدأي ..(f)

تتكلمين عن \" حكم \" تقبيل الاقدام .. وانه لم يكن معروفاً ..

اذن !:9:

هلا تدلينا على " حكم " تقبيل الاقدام في دينك ..
في اي وقت من الدعوة المحمدية ..

ما هو " حكمه " الان ؟؟؟؟؟;)


هل تقبيل القدمين محرم باعتباره " شركاً " كما اعتبره الزميل عبد الرحمن ؟؟؟!!!

هاتي النص ..!!

واجتهدي بشدة لتاتينا به .. لاني محضر لكم مفاجأة من العيار الثقيل !!:present:

ولانك خالية الوفاض يا عزيزتي .. وجعبتك فارغة منذ البداية ..

تقولين التالي ( اضحكوا بشويش يا قراء ) :



[QUOTE]ويا عزيزى المثقف الحصيف الدارس لديننا...ماهى مصادر المسلمين فى أحكام دينهم؟...القرآن..السنة(أقوال وأفعال)..القياس...فليس كل فعل محرم فيه نص...فلتصمت إّذاً طالما لا تعرف شيئاً....

ساصمت .. !

صدقيني ..
سأصمت ..

ولكن بعد ان تاتينا " بدليل " تحريم تبويس القدمين في دينك ..:9:

نص التحريم لا يوجد .. في :

القران .. لا يوجد !:no:

السنة .. لا يوجد !

السيرة ( افعال ) .. لا يوجد ..!

الاحاديث ( الاقوال ) .. لا يوجد !!

طيب هاتي من القياس ..؟؟!!!:o

هاتي من الاجماع ..؟؟؟!!!:what:

هاتي اي دليل .. اي حجة ..!!

افلاس ..

والافلاس بعينه اقرأوه هنا :


اقتباس:فليس كل فعل محرم فيه نص...فلتصمت إّذاً طالما لا تعرف شيئاً

الزميلة الكريمة التي تعرف دينها كما يجب تأمرني بالصمت لاني لا اعلم .. يا للعجب !:eek:

الم تسمعي يا سيدتي في حياتك عن القاعدة في دينك التي تقول:

الاصل في الاشياء هو الاباحة ...!!!!!:9:

مادام لم ينزل نصاً يحرمه ..

فمتى وجد صار حراماً ..

اما انت فتعكسين القاعدة ( حسب الموقف بالطبع ) ..

فمن الذي يجب ان يصمت ؟؟!!!:no2:

والطريف انكم الى الان عجزتم عن تبيان حكم دينكم حول هذا الفعل ..

والاطرف انك تتهميني بالهروب !


[QUOTE]وكفاك هروباً يا بابلى,الموضوع عن النصرانية...فهل أنت جاهل بدينك إلى هذه الدرجة التى تجعلك تفعل وتقول أى شئ لتحول الحديث إلى الإسلام؟....


هداك الله يا ايثار ..

الذين اطلقوا سيقانهم للريح هو انتم !!!:lol:

فنحن اجبنا عن الموضوع بتوسع ولم نهرب ..

الاساتذة الذين قبلي .. ثم انا ( اصغرهم ) ..

ولم يعقب عبد الرحمن على كلامي سوى بعبارة ركيكة مرتعشة ..




اقرأي :
مداخلة رقم : 70


اقتباس:عبد الرحمن كتب :

جدال عقيم مقام على اساس جدال من اجل الجدال فقط

http://forum.nadyelfikr.net/viewthread.php...95411#pid195411


:lol:

هكذا رد عبد الرحمن على كلامي ( المتحور في صلب الموضوع الذي فتحه عبد الرحمن ) ..

من الذي يهرب !!؟؟؟

يعني بماذا يحكم القارئ المنصف ..؟؟!!

:nocomment:

فالرجاء يا ايثار ان تعطينا رأيك وحكمك بجواب عبد الرحمن اعلاه على كلامنا ..:9:

الكل تأكد عن من الذي يهرب ..:duh:

اما توجيهك لاسئلة اخرى عن المسيحية ( بغية التشويش على الموضوع ) ..

حول ابن الله الخ
فاذكرك بان الموضوع محدد بنقطة " تقبيل القدم " !

والتي اثارها الزميل عبد الرحمن .. وهذا الذي تقومين به هو بعينه ما تتهمينا به .. ( تجريف الموضوع عن مساره ) ..:d:

فابقى في صلب الموضوع .. فعبد الرحمن لم ينهي موضوعه ( انما تهرب عن الاجابة وحسب ) ..

فتابعي مع هذه النقطة ..

وهاتي ما يثبت من دينك بان فعل تقبيل القدم هو :

وضاعة .. تحقير .. اشراك ..!!؟؟؟؟:what:

هاتي اي دليل شئتي .. عن تحريمه ( وانا راضي به ) !

هذه الاسئلة موجهة اليك .. فقط ..!

طبعاً فالزميل عبد الرحمن قد اسقط في يده ..
منذ ان اكتشف بأن رسوله قد قبل " فعل تقبيل القدمين " من شخص اسمه عداس ..

ولا ادري على ماذا سينتهي حين يقرأ المفاجأة التي احضرتها لكما ..(f)


ولنا عودة ..

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