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سؤال للإخوة المسيحيين عن الصلاة على النبي
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لو أقنعتكم ببراهين من اللغة السريانية أن عبارة "صلى الله على محمد" هي عبارة مسيحية سريانية ولا إنكار فيها لإيمانكم هل تقبلون أن تقولوا معي "صلى الله عليه وسلم" عند سماع إسم النبي محمد؟

في القداس السرياني يقول الكاهن: صلاو علاي.. ومعناها "صلوا لأجلي.. صلوا على نيتي" أي اطلبوا لي البركة.

كثير من أقباط مصر تشبث بالتوافه في حرف الجر "على" في وروده بعد عبارة "يصلي" و"يسلم" وفاتهم أن الآرامية القديمة فيها الأقرب هو "على" لا "إلى" حيث استخدام حرف الجر "إلى" جاء لاحقاً. لذلك لا زلنا نقول "بالعامية" (رايح ع البيت).

رجاء يا مشرف: لا تحذف العامية!

أعود لأفكاري: ما أقوله هو مؤسس على دراسة الآرامية بالخط القديم الاسطرنجيلي وقبل حدوث تطورات في استخدام حروف الجر والدليل أن عاميتنا المصرية والعربية لا تزال فيها بقايا كل هذا وأغلبنا يقول "السلام عليكم" لا "السلام إليكم" أو"السلام لكم". كون مترجم الكتاب المقدس في ترجمة الفانديك أراد أن يقول "السلام لك" فهو مخالف للروح السامي والذي به جاء الإنجيل وجميع النصوص الشرقية القديمة والتي فيها السلام كان دائماً يتبعه حرف الجر"على" وكذلك مصطلح "الصلاة". كوني أقول لك إطلب لي الدعاء كانت" صلي علي" ولم تكن "صلي إليّ" ومن ثم جاء مصطلح "اللهم صلي على محمد وعلى آل محمد وصحبه وسلم". هذا دعاء بالبركة ولا يجب أن يزعج المسيحيين العرب.
ما قولكم دام ظلكم؟
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لا أرى غرابة في الأمر يا إبراهيم ، فالمسلمون يستخدمون مصطلحات آرامية ( سريانية بالتعبير اليوناني ) ذات مدلول ديني دون أي محظور ككلمة " قرآن " وكلمة " آمين " ، ناهيك عن ان القرآن ذاته ملئ بالكلمات ذات الرسم الآرامي مثل صلوات ( صلاة ) مثلا .. الخ ، والأمر بسيط : فاللغة الآرامية هي الأم الشرعية والقريبة جدا للغة العربية رسما ولفظا .. فنحن لازلنا نستخدم الأبجدية الآرامية بذات اللفظ والترتيب حتى الآن ، أقصد أبجد هوز حطي كلمن .. الخ وحتى الخط الاسطرنجيلي قريب جدا إلى الخط الكوفي ..


على الهامش ..وبالمناسبة ، سمعت عن اللغات المهرية والسقطرية والحميرية والشحرية .. وهي من اللغات السامية القديمة التي لاتزال متداولة حتى الآن في بعض أجزاء الجزيرو العربية ؟
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