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السلام عليكم.. أرحب بالجميع..

بداية .. أحب أن أشير إلى أن مشكلتي مع الأديان ليست مع نصوصها بقدر ما هي مع فكرة "الأديان" نفسها من حيث المبدأ.. أي فكرة " الإله القاضي" المنفصل عن الكون ، والذي يضع دستوراً يسمى "الدين" لمخلوقات من صنعه ويريد لهم أن يتبعوا منهجاً معيناً دون غيره من خلال رسائل يقوم بعض البشر بتوصيلها نيابة عنه..

ومن هذا المنطلق فأنا هنا أبحث في آيات القرآن الكريم لمعرفة وجهة نظر الإسلام في مسألة الكون وترتيب الأحداث بها بشكل أظنه محايداً جداً لعدم وجود مشكلة لدي في أن يكون هناك تناقض أو لا..

ندخل في الموضوع ..:

أنا أحب التأويل والجمع بين النصوص كرياضة عقلية أثناء دراستي التطوعية للأديان المقارنة .. غير أنه من المسائل التي توقفت أمامها حائراً هي ثلاث مجموعات من الآيات تتحدث عن مراحل خلق الكون .. وقد عجزت فعلاً عن التوفيق بينهم بشكل يلغي التناقض الظاهر.. ولنطرح المسألة بشكل منظم :

◄ هذه الآيات هي:
1- هُوَ الَّذِي خَلَقَ لَكُمْ مَا فِي الْأَرْضِ جَمِيعاً ثُمَّ اسْتَوَى إِلَى السَّمَاءِ فَسَوَّاهُنَّ سَبْعَ سَمَاوَاتٍ وَهُوَ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عَلِيمٌ {27} (البقرة)
2- قُلْ أَئِنَّكُمْ لَتَكْفُرُونَ بِالَّذِي خَلَقَ الْأَرْضَ فِي يَوْمَيْنِ وَتَجْعَلُونَ لَهُ أَنْدَادًا ذَلِكَ رَبُّ الْعَالَمِينَ وَجَعَلَ فِيهَا رَوَاسِيَ مِنْ فَوْقِهَا وَبَارَكَ فِيهَا وَقَدَّرَ فِيهَا أَقْوَاتَهَا فِي أَرْبَعَةِ أَيَّامٍ سَوَاءً لِلسَّائِلِينَ{9} ثُمَّ اسْتَوَى إِلَى السَّمَاءِ وَهِيَ دُخَانٌ فَقَالَ لَهَا وَلِلْأَرْضِ اِئْتِيَا طَوْعًا أَوْ كَرْهًا قَالَتَا أَتَيْنَا طَائِعِينَ فَقَضَاهُنَّ سَبْعَ سَمَاوَاتٍ فِي يَوْمَيْنِ وَأَوْحَى فِي كُلِّ سَمَاءٍ أَمْرَهَا وَزَيَّنَّا السَّمَاءَ الدُّنْيَا بِمَصَابِيحَ وَحِفْظًا ذَلِكَ تَقْدِيرُ الْعَزِيزِ الْعَلِيمِ {11} (فصّلت).
3- أَأَنتُمْ أَشَدُّ خَلْقاً أَمِ السَّمَاء بَنَاهَا{27} رَفَعَ سَمْكَهَا فَسَوَّاهَا {28} وَأَغْطَشَ لَيْلَهَا وَأَخْرَجَ ضُحَاهَا {29} وَالْأَرْضَ بَعْدَ ذَلِكَ دَحَاهَا {30} أَخْرَجَ مِنْهَا مَاءهَا وَمَرْعَاهَا {31} وَالْجِبَالَ أَرْسَاهَا {32} مَتَاعاً لَّكُمْ وَلِأَنْعَامِكُمْ {33}. (النازعات)

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◄ أما عن الأحداث التي وردت في الآيات بترتيبات مختلفة فهي:
1- خلق الأرض.
2- تسوية الأرض ( أي دحوها - إرساء جبالها - إخراج مائها ومرعاها ..إلخ ).
3- خلق السماء.
4- تسوية السماء ( أي فصلها إلى سبع سموات - الإيحاء لكل سماء بأمرها .. إلخ ).

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◄ والمطلوب الآن:
وضع ترتيب للأحداث السابقة بحيث يمكن تطبيقه على أي آية فلا يحدث تناقض .. وبحيث يكون الترتيب متفقاً مع الحقيقة الثابتة القائلة بأن خلق السماء بما فيها من مجرات ونجوم لابد - علماً ومنطقاً - أن يكون قبل خلق الأرض.

أنتظر حلولكم بحماس.. لكم مني أجمل تحية..
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