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مشاركة: #15
RE: █▓▒░ هـل هناك تنـاقض فـي ترتـيـب الخلـق بالـقـرآن الكـريـم ؟؟ ░▒▓█
حسن.. لن أقع في خطئي الشهير بانسياقي وراء جدل لا داعي له..
اقتباس: القران استخدم كلمتين عربيتين مشتقتين من الجذر سما الاولى بصيغة المفرد السماء و الثانية بصيغة الجمع السموات و هذا دليل على تعدد الموصوفات و عدم تماثلها.
جمع الشيء يعني أنه يشتمل على المفرد وأكثر..!
أي أن السموات تشمل أكثر من "سماء".. أظن هذا لا يمكن الاختلاف عليه..

اقتباس:لو كان الامر كما تقول يا زميلي فلماذا استخدم القران صيغا مختلفة في مرة قال السماء الدنيا و في مرة قال السموات العلا و في اخرى قال السماء ذات البروج؟

لأنه أحياناً يتم التعبير عن الجمع بصيغة المفرد لإفادة العموم ..
كقولك مثلاً " الرجل أطول من المرأة" .. وهذا شهير في اللغة..

اقتباس:اولا قال بروج و لم يقل نجوم ,
!!
انظر إلى أي معجم لتعلم معنى الكلمة يا عزيزي..

اقتباس: ثانيا هذا دليل على انه يقصد السماء بمعنى الفضاء الكوني بخلاف السماء التي يقول بانه انزل منها الماء(وَأَنْزَلَ مِنَ السَّمَاءِ مَاءً فَأَخْرَجَ بِهِ مِنَ الثَّمَرَاتِ رِزْقاً لَكُمْ فَلا تَجْعَلُوا لِلَّهِ أَنْدَاداً وَأَنْتُمْ تَعْلَمُونَ) (البقرة:22) و مع ذلك تصر على ان السماء واحدة رغم النصوص القرانية الواضحة
فصل المسميات يحدث عندما يكون هناك تعارض بينها .. أن هنا لا تستوعب أن ذات الشيء قد يحوي أكثر من صفة بداخله..! فالسماء هي المكان الذي تسبح فيه الطيور والسحب ..وهي أيضاً المكان الذي تسبح فيه النجوم ولكن في مدى أبعد كيراً عن مدى السحب..! ما المشكلة في هذا ؟؟

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الأخ الصفي..أريد منك إجابة واضحة ومحددة على :
1- هل النجوم موجودة في السموات القرآنية أم لا ؟؟
2- إذا لم تكن موجودة في السماء..فأين هي !؟ بم يسمى المكان الذي توجد به النجوم في اللغة العربية ؟؟
3- خلق الوجود الذي استوى الله بعده على العرش كان في ستة أيام.. منهم أربعة لخلق الأرض ويومان للسموات وفقاً لوصف القرآن.. السؤال : إذا لم تكن النجوم ضمن السموات ..فمتى تم خلقهم ؟!
10-06-2009, 05:20 PM
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