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هل يوجد أحد معصوم ! ؟ ( العصمة في الأديان )
قرأت القران والاحاديث والاناجيل وكلمة ( عصمة ) أصلا غير موجودة !!!
فالمراجع الدينية لم تربط كلمة ( عصمة ) بالأنبياء فما بالك بغيرهم !
وأغلبها يوثق الجانب المشرق في حياة النبي فقط وليس كامل حياته من الألف إلى الياء !

بعض الأفكار , منقول :

ووجدك ضالا فهدى :
إذا كان النبي يصل الى معرفة المحرمات بذاته فما حاجة النبي للوحي !

عند المسلمين تناقض :
ادم نبي ورسول وفي نفس الوقت اختار معصية الله وأمامه وهو في نعيم الجنة !


اما بالنسبة لعصمة الانبياء هذا خطأ والله عصم النبي في ان يشرع لعباده او يتقول على الله ويقول الله امر ولم يأمر الله
والانبياء كلهم معرضون للخطأ لكن ليس في تشريع الله

ووجدك ضالا فهدى + قل إنما أنا بشر مثلكم يوحى إلى =
العصمة للنبي محمد ص من الثوابت والمسلمات عند المسلمين
ولكن كيف يكون معصوم من كان على ضلالة وجاء الوحي لإنقاذه من الضلال !
فكيف كان وقت الضلال وقبل الوحي ! ؟
يجب أن يراجع المسلمين القران مراجعة دقيقة
كيف يكون معصوم وفي نفس الوقت
كان بشرا ضالا ثم هدى !
فإذا كان معصوم فهو لم يكن ضال ولا يحتاج للوحي او الهداية !
فبداية كل الذنوب والمعاصي هو الضلال !

محمد & النبيذ :
http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Displ...?hnum=3721&doc=1&IMAGE
http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Display.asp?Doc=14&ID=13405
http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Displ...?hnum=3594&doc=6

العصمة البابوية Papal infallibility
يبدو أن مصطلحات : شيخ , الأئمة المعصومين , راشدين ,آل البيت, سنة , اهل السنة والجماعة , شيعة علي و آل البيت , ... الخ
هي لإعطاء سلطة وشرعية لقمع المعارضين فيحتكرون الحق !
http://cagle.com/news/PopeBashing/images/englehart2.jpg
Papal Infallibility: Is The Pope Infallibile
kissed the Koran
http://www.theprotestantknights.org/papa...ility.html
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لوط والزنى :
لوط هو رجل صالح وبار فقط في الكتاب المقدس ورسول في الإسلام :
https://secure.ushaaqallah.com/forum/vie...hp?t=14185
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إضافة منقولة :
ولم يقل القران انه لم يرتكب ذنب في حياته بل ذكر سيرته والجانب المشرق في حياته
لأنه هكذا سيكون كالملائكة والملائكة لا تستطيع العيش داخل مجتمع بشري !
( قل لو كان في الارض ملائكة يمشون مطمئنين لنزلنا عليهم من السماء ملكا رسولا )
(وقالوا مال هذا الرسول ياكل الطعام ويمشي في الاسواق لولا انزل اليه ملك فيكون معه نذيرا)
أو كما قال انجيل توما بتصرف :
من اكتشف حقيقة الأرض فقد اكتشف جيفة ومن اكتشف جيفة ,فالأرض لاتستحقه ,فهو سيحاول الدخول الى الملكوت

( والقى الالواح واخذ براس اخيه يجره اليه )
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