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RE: الزمن عند الله
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(04-27-2010, 01:52 PM)مسلم كتب:  وحسب ما اعلم فالله لا يحتاج لزمن في تدبير اوامره فامر خارج الزمن ولا يحتاج له

من أين علمتَ هذا؟! مع النص الصريح لو سمحت!

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بل المقصود هو أن الله لا يحتاج لزمن في صنع اوامره

من الذي قال لك هذا؟
الله لا يحتاج إلى زمن لأن الحاجة نقص والنقص محال على الله تعالى
لكن أوامره هي التي بحاجة لزمن
فأوامر الله مخلوقة وبحاجة للزمن (مخلوق) لتتم
ألم يستغرق خلق السموات والأرض 6 مراحل زمنية؟!
!

انت قلت بأن الله لا يحتاج لزمن فكيف علمت أنت ومع المصدر اذا سمحت
فكيف تطالبني بدليل انت تؤمن به
اما اوامره فبما أن الله لا يحتاج للزمن فنحن نستطيع أن نفهم بأن اوامره لا تحتاج لزمن اليس كذلك
اليس امره كن فيكون والكاف لا تسبق النون ؟؟
فهل هذه الكن تحتاج لزمن
وهل قوله يحتاج لزمن
نحن لا نتكلم عن الفعل التالي للأمر والذي يحتاج لزمن
من مثل إذا أمر أن يتم خلق فلان فإن خلقه يحتاج لشهور عدة
وهذا امر معروف
ولكن هنا اتحدث عن رؤية القرآن بأن الامر يحتاج لوقت نزولا وصعودا
والامر كما نعلم لا يحتاج الف سنة كي يصل ارضنا
واصلا وصول الامر بحسب مقاييس العلم الحديث تحتاج لملايين السنين وليس الف سنة فقط إذا سلمنا أن الامر يحتاج لوقت
وكشرح آخر كي يتم فهم المقصود
عندما يقول الله كلمة ( كن ) فهل هذه تحتاج ألف سنة نزولا وصعودا
ولماذا

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