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أنت تسأل و قداسة البابا شنودة يجيب
س 11 : هل الضمير هو صوت الله ؟

ج :

كلا . ليس الضمير هو صوت الله , لان الضمير كثيرا ما يخطئ , وصوت الله لا يخطئ .

واكبر دليل علي هذا قول السيد المسيح لتلاميذه :

" تأتي ساعة فيها يظن كل من يقتلكم انه يقدم خدمة لله " ( يو 16 : 2 )

وطبعا هذا الضمير الذي يري في قتل التلاميذ خدمة لله , لا يمكن إطلاقا أن يكون هو صوت الله , وأمثال هذا كثير ....

الضمير قد يكون موسوسا , يظن الخطية حيث لا توجد خطية , أو يكبر من قيمة الخطية فوق حقيقتها .... وقد يكون الضمير واسع يسمح بأشياء كثيرة خاطئة ويبررها . وكلا النوعين لا يمكن أن يكون صوت الله , لا الضمير الذي يصف عن البعوضة , ولا الذي يبلع الجمل ( مت 23 )

أن الذي يقتل انتقاما لمقتل أخيه أو أبيه , وضميره يتعبه إن لم يثأر لدم قريبه , هذا لا يمكن أن يكون ضميره صوت الله , وبالمثل من يقتل أخته إذا زنت , لكي يطهر سمعة الأسرة , لا يمكن أن يكون الذي دعاه إلي القتل هو صوت الله

بعض الناس يخلطون بين الضمير و الروح القدس

صوت الله في الإنسان , هو صوت روح الله العامل فيه , وهذا لا يمكن أن يخطئ . أما الضمير فيمكن أن يخطأ , وكثيرا ما يتحمس الإنسان لعمل شيء , وضميره يتعبه إن لم يعمله , بينما يكون روح الله غير راض عن هذا العمل .

وكثيرا ما يتغير ضمير الإنسان بالتعليم والتوجيه .

فيري اليوم حراما ما كان يراه بالأمس حلالا تماما نتيجة لجهله أو سوء فهمه .

فلو كان الضمير هو صوت الله , هل يعقل أن يتغير في حكمه اليوم عن الأمس ؟! إن تغير الضمير دليل علي انه ليس صوت الله.

إنسان يدعوه ضميره باسم الرحمة أو الشفقة أن يغشش طالب في الامتحان يبكي وهو معرض للسقوط ... أو باسم الرحمة والشفقة ضمير طبيب يدعوه إلي كتابة شهادة مرضية لإنسان غير مريض .. ثم يقتنع بالتوجيه فيما بعد أن هذا خطأ , فلا يوافق ضميره عليه في المستقبل .

فكيف يكون الضمير صوت الله في الإنسان , وهو يدعو أحيانا إلي شيء , وأحيانا أخري إلي ضده.

إن الضمير هو صوت وضعه الله في الإنسان , يدعوه إلي الخير , ويبكته علي الشر , ولكنه ليس صوت الله

وبالمثل وضع الله في الإنسان عقلا يدعوه إلي الخير .
وجعل للإنسان روحا تشتهي ضد الجسد .
ومع ذلك كثيرا ما يخطئ العقل , وكثيرا ما تخطيء الروح.
كلاهما من الله , ولكنهما ليسا عقل الله ولا روح الله .

كذلك الضمير هو صوت وضعه الله ولكنه ليس صوت الله.
صوت الله في الإنسان , هو روح الله العامل فيه
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