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بالمنطق:لفداء البشر : صلب يسوع أم اغتصاب يسوعة؟؟!!
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الطرح يستحق المناقشة من الناحية العقلية حيث أنه يتضمن مناقشة عقلانية لعملية الفداء :

1- تتضمن أن الفداء كان بروح المسيح -نظراً لأن الخطيئة منسوبة لآدم ونوع آدم ذكر-وكانت التضحية بروحه نظراً لأن الرجل الذكر يعتبر روحه هى أغلى مايملك .
مالذى جعلك سيدى تقرر أن الحياة عند الرجل فقط هى أغلى مايملك ؟ أعتقد ان الحياة عند الإنسان بنوعيه هى أغلى مايملك ....
2- الخطيئة -كما جاءت فى رؤية الكاتب لكلمات الكتاب المقدس - يجب أن تنسب لحواء فهى صاحبة اليد الطولى فى عصيان أوامر الإلاه وفى إغواء آدم .
سيدى أجد أنك قد أقررت أن آدم قد غوى فهو مشارك فى الخطئية سواء كانت الغواية من الشيطان أو من حواء .
3- الفداء يجب أن يكون عن طريق شىء يشابه لحواء لا لآدم -يسوعة فى الفرضية المطروحة ويجب أن يكون بتقديمها لشرفها فداءاً للبشر -.
سيدى هل فقد العذرية لإبنة الإلاه أو لتجليه هو نفسه فى جسد إمرأة شىء مقبول من البشر العقلاء ؟ ولنفترض أنها سوف تكون مقبولة مامصير نتاج الفداء فى هذه الحالة
سيدى عملية الفداء -على رغم من رفضى لمنطقيتها - لم تعتمد على ماتقول فإسمح لى أن أناقشك فى طرحك ببساطة شديدة لا منطقية ترغبها
05-29-2005, 05:37 AM
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