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من الدين إلى اللادين..لماذا أنا لاديني ؟
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من الدين إلى اللادين..لماذا أنا لاديني ؟
تحياتي للجميع..


مرور لتسجيل اهتمام ومتابعة

نقطة إيجابية تسجل للحوار وتغري بالمتابعة هو سعيه لإيجاد تعاريف مانعة جامعة لبعض المصطلحات التي ما زالت هلامية و بحاجة لتأطير:

-الدينية واللادينية..

-الملحد, الديني , اللاديني,اللاادري..إلخ
atheist, agnostic, the religious,etc

- الأديان *السماوية وتلك الوضعية** حسب حجم المنظومة الدوغماتية الإلهية* و الأخلاقية الإنسانية** في كل منها, ومدىالمرونة التي تسمح كل منها به...وكيف نخرج مثلا الشيوعية التي هي منظومة دوغماتية وأخلاقية لحد ما من منظومة الدين إلى فلك الإيديولوجيا!

أغلب هذه المفاهيم Concepts مهمةو قد تعتبر نقطة جيدة للانطلاق بفهمها-بجانب حوارات كهذه- لمبتدئين مثلي قراءة اعمال راسل مثلآوغيره ,والأهم النقد الذي تناولها ....

ولكن هل يمكن ان ارجوكم ايضآ إدراج مفهوم ورد بكثرة كمرجعية ونقطة ارتكاز في حواركم الشيق هذا ,ولم يؤطر بعد في محاولة الحوار إيجاد تعارف مانعة جامعة... و هو [SIZE=4]الحقيقة والحقائق ,المطلقة وتلك النسبية..

مصطلح قد يبدو الأكثر وضوحآ و((حقيقية)), ولكني أراه الاكثر التباسآ ورمادية:emb:

أحس بوجود لبس خاصة في العربية لهذا المصطلح, فهويقابل truth و هي مصطلح (تجريدي)فضفاض, وfacts التي نستعملها ك(حقائق) بدلآ من وقائع.. أو....أو....


ما التعريف الجامع المانع ل(الحقيقة)؟؟؟؟ الذي نستعمله كثيرآ ك Baseline لفصل كثير من الإشكاليات!؟؟؟

اقتباس: وهل يمكن التسليم بأن نتائج العقل هي " حقائق " يمكن التعويل عليها ؟



أتمنى سماع آراء الجميع خاصة لوجيكال (قبل أن يغير معرفه إلى Romanticبعد ايام قليلة,ألف مبروك :97: وخالد وحسان المعري..



[QUOTE] الليبرالي كتب/كتبت [/i]
اللا ديني كما أتخيله هو الإنسان اللامنتمي إلى دين بذاته ..

????
الجملة تبدو لي شكليآ متناقضة كparadox
هل المقصود هو اللامنتمي إلى اي دين , أو االمنتمي إلى منظومة ما ولكن لا يصح اعتبارها دينية. هذا عندها يقود كما اثير التساؤل حول تعريف ماهية((للدين))...
هل أتباع السيخية التي زاوجت دينين يمكن بشكل تجاوزي تصنيفهما كدين سماوي وآخر وضعي, هم لا دينيون...؟؟ لأنهم لا ينتمون إ لى( دين بذاته)...


:97: لكم جميعآ
06-03-2005, 09:35 PM
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من الدين إلى اللادين..لماذا أنا لاديني ؟ - بواسطة skeptic - 06-03-2005, 09:35 PM

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