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الاختلاف القرآني في رواية القصة ذاتها مرتين, دليل دامغ على بشرية القرآن
كتب katz

[QUOTE] اساس المشكلة عند الزميل لبنانى انه يفترض ان لوطا كان لا يعرف بحقيقة ان ضيوفه ملائكة عندما جاءه قومه يزفون
و هذا افتراض من عنده و لم يقل به القرآن
تعالوا بنا ننظر للقصة من أولها
1- عندما جاءت ابنة لوط بالضيوف قال ده اصله يوم منيل ب 60 نيلة و لم يعرف ان الضيوف ملائكة
2- الضيوف عرفوه بنفسهم و فهموه مهمتهم
3- اهل المدينة يعلمون بضيوفه و يهرعون اليه
4- لوط يصاب بالجزع فهو و ان كان يعلم الآن ان ضيوفه ملائكة الا انه يظن ان قومه قادرون على ايذائهم رغم انهم ملائكة
5- الملائكة تطمئن لوطا ان الحكاية مش سايبة و ان قومه لا يقدرون عليهم
6- العذاب يصيب قوم لوط كما سيصيب كل من يكفر برسوله محمد أو يشرك بالله ولدا أو زوجه


انا أفترض او انت من يفترض؟
كيف تفترض انت ان لوطا يعلم مسبقا ان ضيوفه ملائكة وتسلسل الروي لم يذكر ذلك؟
واذا انا كنت من يفترض فهل ايضا المفسرون يفترضون؟
فلنقرأ تفسير القرطبي سوية ولنر من الذي يفترض انا والقرطبي او انت وحدك


تفسير القرطبي للآية:قَالُوا يَا لُوطُ إِنَّا رُسُلُ

لَمَّا رَأَتْ الْمَلَائِكَة حُزْنه وَاضْطِرَابه وَمُدَافَعَته عَرَّفُوهُ بِأَنْفُسِهِمْ , فَلَمَّا عَلِمَ أَنَّهُمْ رُسُل مَكَّنَ قَوْمه مِنْ الدُّخُول , فَأَمَرَّ جِبْرِيل عَلَيْهِ السَّلَام يَده عَلَى أَعْيُنهمْ فَعَمُوا , وَعَلَى أَيْدِيهمْ فَجَفَّتْ .


09-01-2005, 09:32 PM
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