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النواصب والتشيع الاثني عشري والسياسة
رحمة العاملي غير متصل
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RE: النواصب والتشيع الاثني عشري والسياسة
خالد افندي
عندما اقول لك انك تصرفك بالايات والاثار هو تصرف الوهابية ، فهو كذلك
مع انك تدعي اللاسنية واللاشيعية واللازيدية واللامعتزلية واللا.....الخ
اي لانك مسلم سيبيري حضرتك ما الك تاني
شو علاقة ايات الافك التي سرقتها السيدة عائشة ونسبتها الى نفسها وهي آيات خاصة بمارية القبطية رضوان الله عليها لان اصحاب الافك الحقيقيين هم ابو بكر وابنته والذي تولى كبره هو عمر بن الخطاب بذاته
فشو علاقة ما تهرف بموضوع ان اصل من تتبع سنتهم من ارومة غير طاهرة

اتريد مني اربعة شهود على ان معاوية ولد لابي سفيان بعد زواجه من هند بثلاثة اشهر
او تريد شهود مثلا ان ابي بكر بن ابي قحافة مولود لابيه من ابنة اخيه وانه كان عبدا لابن جدعان بشبع بطنه في الجاهلية وانه ظل يعاقر الخمر حتى بعد اسلامه هو وصاحبه عراب خلافته
او تريد ان عمرو بن العاص ليس ابنا للعاص بنص القرآن الكريم وان امه كانت تواقع عشرة رجال في نفس اليوم لشدة عهرها
او تريد شهود على ان عمر بن الخطاب مولود بنكاح الشبهة وابوه وامه متولدان من سفاح المحارم باعراف الجاهلية نفسها
لماذا تخافون من النقاش الموضوعي وتتهمني بالقذف ؟
هل انا من نسب عمر بن الخطاب لصهاك او امير المؤمنين علي بن ابي طالب
او هل كانت صهاك زوجة او جارية لهشام بن المغيرة لتلد له حنتمة ام عمر ؟
وما سكتنا عنه اعظم ، ولم نناقشه بعد
لو كان زواج الرسول من بنات ابو بكر وعمر دليلاً على شرعية ابو بكر وعمر وعلى وجود الانسجام الفكري والعقائدي بينهم وبين الرسول ، لسلمنا بالانسجام نفسه بين رسول الله(صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) وبين أبي سفيان بسبب زواج النبيّ من أُمّ حبيبة بنت أبي سفيان ، وبين الرسول واليهود لزواجه صلوات الله عليه من صفية بنت حيي
ش معنى يعني معاوية خال المؤمنين واليهود مش اخوال المؤمنين ؟

نأتي الى ابسطمولوجي
صاحب الوقت الثمين ابو تفكير منطقي وعقلي الذي طاولت قرون جهله السحاب
يا بهيمة
انا لم احتج عليك بما في كتبنا بل الزمتك انصافا حتى لا تحتج علينا بما في كتبنا لانك ملزم ساعة ئذ بالاعتراف بافتراء عمر وجوره وظلمه بحسب ما ورد في كتبنا من روايات ليست محل تسليم
( ذلك فرج غصبناه ) أو ( غصبنا عليه ) في رواية اخرى ، وأقصى ما يمكن الدلالة عليه جدلا هو وقوع التزويج عن إكراه وتهديد وافتراء وظلم من خليفتك (الفاروق العادل)
كيف تقرأ وتفهم ؟ والله لا ادري !!

وكل قواعد بحثكم ومبانيكم في الاحاديث والرجال قائمة على موافقة المذهب ولا شيء آخر ولا علاقة لكم بالدليل العقلي او التاريخي

قلتلي بدك برهان عقلي على ما في كتبك ؟

طيب خود حلل عقليا يا بلا عقل

كتبكم تقول أن عمر عندما تزوج من ام كلثوم وهي صبية دون العاشرة وتوفي على اثرها كان عمره 63 سنة .
طيب
تزوج أمير المؤمنين علي (ع) من فاطمة (ع) وعمره 25 سنة
أول مولود لأمير المؤمنين كان الحسن ، ثم الحسين ، ثم زينب ، وبعدها أم كلثوم في حياة رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم .
ثم تقول كتبكم ان ام كلثوم بعدما مات عنها عمر تزوجت بعون بن جعفر بن ابي طالب , ثم بمحمد بن جعفر , ثم بعبد الله بن جعفر. مع أن المؤرخين قد ذكروا ان كلا من عون و محمد قد قتلا في حرب ( تستر ) التي وقعت في عهد عمر بن الخطاب!! وعبدالله بن جعفر كان زوجا لزينب بنت علي
فكيف تتزوّجهما ام كلثوم بعد موتهما ؟!
وثابت تاريخيا ان ام كلثوم بنت علي كانت زوجة محمد بن جعفر بن ابي طالب
فكيف يتزوج بها عمر وهي متزوجة اصلا ثم عادت وتزوجت زوجها ابن جعفر المقتول بمعركة تستر ؟
وحينما مات عمر ، أم كلثوم كان عمرها اربع سنوات واشهر بحسب رواياتكم !
إذاً ، متى تزوج عمر ابن الخطاب من ابنة علي بن ابي طالب
فضلاً عن أن ينجب منها أكثر من مولود كما تدعي كتبك !
لانه بحسب كتبك التي فاقت خيالا كتب الف ليلة وليلة بل وحتى كتب والت ديزني تكون ام كلثوم مولودة لفاطمة عليها السلام بعد وفاتها لان الزهراء توفيت في اول ايام ابي بكر وان عمر بحسب كتبك تزوجها وعمرها اربع سنوات اواخر ايام حكمه وقبل مقتله بايام
وبالنتيجة كل رواياتكم حول هذا الزواج منقولة عن كذابين وضاعين وهم الجهني والشعبي ونافع مولى عمر
واتحداك ان تثبت صحة رواياتكم على اي مبنى تريد

وللدلالة على انك بهيمة ولا تعرف قرونك من حوافرك تريد ان تقولني ما لم اقله فقط لتفتري على أئمة اهل البيت عليهم السلام مع انك تريد ان تبحث في من هو الناصبي وانت شبعان نصب
فدعك من هذه الالاعيب وناقش في اصل أئمتك وقادتك (الطاهر)
ولا تستحي فلا حياء في الدين
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