(04-05-2013, 04:07 AM)السيد مهدي كتب:  

(04-05-2013, 12:40 AM)wadderus كتب:  

(04-05-2013, 12:07 AM)السيد مهدي كتب:  

(04-04-2013, 11:06 PM)Dr.xXxXx كتب:  شوف هالصفيق أعلاه، مفكر كاتب حديث قدسي..
"أيران الإسلام الشيعية" لم تتسبب لنا بأذى لأننا لم نتعامل معها مباشرةً بعد، لكننا لم نفقد الأمل وننتظر الخازوق الأيراني القادم بإذن الواحد الأحد على يد حماس.
لكن الأذى تسبب به مندوبي أيران وعلى رأسهم الحركة التي أسسها موسى الصدر بعد أن تعلموا من الفلسطينيين الفرق بين الكرسي والبندقية، فالطبع يغلب التطبع، واتفاق القاهرة واشتراك الفلسطينيين في صد العدوان عن لبنان لم تشفع لهم من تآمر محور الممانعة عليهم.
ثانياُ، هلا شرحت لنا رجاءاً عن المعاملة الخاصة التي لقيها الفلسطينيون في العراق بعد سقوط نظام صدام حسين؟

السؤال كان موجها لخالد، فمالذي حشرمن إتخذت موقفا منهم؟؟؟ بالإهمال وعدم الإتصال.
والصفاقة لهامعنى واحد، حينما تبدأ بالتطاول(تنفيسا لأحقاد وغيظ أضداد) ثم تترجى!!!
ومن يوظف خدماته، لمجرم عاهرمثل المعدوم جرذ الحفر والإوساخ صدام، يجب عليه أن يتوقع سورة غضب المظلوم، حينما يجيئ وقت حساب الظالم.

يعني كل الشعب الفلسطيني بالعراق كانوا خدام للظالم؟ فعادي المظلوم يلعن ابو شرفهم!!
فعلا الجيش والمخايرات والشرطة وكل شي بالعراق كان بيد الفلسطينيين وجميع الفلسطينيين بلا استثناء باطفالهم ونسائهم
عندما تتجلى عقلية العصور الوسطى بابها حللها
وبعدين بما انك ماشي على مبدأ السيئة تعم ليش بتزعل لما الثوار السوريين المظلومين يلعنوا شرف الشيعة ؟
ملاحظة كان الحوار ممتع جدا ...ما في احلى من السنة والشيعة لما يفضحوا بعض...

من تكلم عن كل الشعب الفلسطيني؟ لتدلس بتعميم كلامي!!!!

الكل عارف بإن نظام البعث في العراق، كان يطلب من الجميع التجسس له، وإلا النهاية معروفة.

فمن صودرت بيوتهم من العراقيين، من قبل النظام ظلما وتعسفا، ومنحت للفلسطينين. إستردها ملاكهاالأصليين.

هذا ماأفهمه وكل ماحصل، ولم أسمع بظلم آخروقع على الفلسطينيين.

فإن كان هناك ظلم وتعدي طبعا فهومدان بلاشك.

والمسألة لاعلاقة لها بنصب أوموقف من الإخوة الفلسطينيين بسبب إنتمائهم المذهبي.

بقية هراءك لامحل له من الأعراب، ولادخل له بسؤالي لخالد.

بعيدا عن شخصناتك المنتشرة جدا بهذا النادي و لن استطيع مجاراتك بها ولا اعلم من كان صاحب الفكرة العبقرية برفع الرقابة ...لندخل بصلب الموضوع

دعني اذكرك بتسلسل الحديث ابتداءا من كلام الزميل اكس حين قال

اقتباس:لكن الأذى تسبب به مندوبي أيران

فقلت انت

اقتباس:ومن يوظف خدماته، لمجرم عاهرمثل المعدوم جرذ الحفر والإوساخ صدام، يجب عليه أن يتوقع سورة غضب المظلوم، حينما يجيئ وقت حساب الظالم.

اذا كما ترى التسلسل هو:
1-طلبت اثبات لاذاء الشعب الفلسطيني
2- جاء لك الزميل باثباتات عن اذاء الشعب الفلسطيني
3-كان ردك ان هذا عقاب التوظف لصدام
4--اذا انت بررت اذى الشعب الفلسطيني بخدماتهم لصدام
5- بما ان الاذى عم شرائح واسعة من الشعب الفلسطيني فتبريرك له يفهم منه ضمنيا تبرير العقاب الجماعي الذي حل بهم

اقتباس:من تكلم عن كل الشعب الفلسطيني؟ لتدلس بتعميم كلامي!!!

هل رايت الان انني لم ادلس عليك؟

اقتباس:فمن صودرت بيوتهم من العراقيين، من قبل النظام ظلما وتعسفا، ومنحت للفلسطينين. إستردها ملاكهاالأصليين.

هذا ماأفهمه وكل ماحصل، ولم أسمع بظلم آخروقع على الفلسطينيين.

لا اعلم يا صديقي ان كنت فعلا لا تدري ما حدث بالفلسطينيين وعلى كل هذا ما اتمناه
تفضل هذا الرابط لتعلم ما حدث لهم وان كنت تريد اثباتات اكثر انا جاهز

Persecution of Palestinians in postwar Iraq

After the fall of Saddam Hussein’s regime in April 2003, Palestinians in Iraq were subject to discrimination, sectarian violence and ruthless killing by the Iraqi government and various militia groups. Palestinian neighborhoods such as al-Doura, al-Hurriyya and al-Baladiyyat in Baghdad were also bombarded and attacked.[14] A report by the UNHCR in 2007 provided details of the violence and persecution perpetrated against Palestinians in Iraq, which included abductions, attacks, torture by both unknown militia groups and the Iraqi Ministry of the Interior and the deaths of many Palestinian women,men, and children.[15]
[edit]Iraqi Governmental Policies towards Palestinians
Under the newly-elected Iraqi government, Palestinians were stripped of their residency permits and made to register at the Ministry of the Interior each month. This has proven extremely dangerous, and the fear of being shot upon entering or leaving the ministry has deterred many Palestinians from obtaining their right to residency in Iraq. In addition, Human Rights Watch reported that Ministry of Interior officials have arbitrarily arrested, beaten, tortured, and in a few cases, forcibly disappeared Palestinian refugees.[9]
[edit]Bombing of Al Askari Mosque in 2006
After the bombing of the Shi’a mosque in the city of Samarra, circumstances of those Palestinians living in Iraq worsened considerably as they became scapegoats, synonymous with ‘terrorists’ and ‘insurgents’. Human Rights Watch reported that in mid-March, an unknown militia group calling itself the “Judgment Day Brigades” distributed leaflets in Palestinian neighborhoods, accusing the Palestinians of collaborating with the insurgents and stating the following: “We warn that we will eliminate you all if you do not leave this area for good within ten days.” Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani issued a fatwa in April 2006, forbidding any attacks on Palestinians. However, the mass of killings and death threats put the Palestinian community in a ‘state of shock’ and forced thousands to leave the country, according to the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR).[9]
[edit]Palestinians Fleeing Iraq



Karamadoor
After 2003, the majority of Palestinians were either killed or fled to the neighbouring countries of Syria and Jordan – neither of which is a signatory to the 1951 Geneva Convention, although each country adheres to the 1965 Casablanca Protocol without reservation.[16] Despite the admirable generosity and hospitality of Syria and Jordan towards thousands of Iraqis, and their large and well-integrated populations of Palestinians, both countries have closed their borders to Palestinians coming from Iraq. As a result, many have been left stranded in squalid conditions within border camps such as Al-Waleed or Al-Karama, both of which are situated in ‘No Man’s Land’ near to the borders shared with Syria and Jordan. Others have had no choice but to return to cities of Baghdad and Mosul. In 2007, UNHCR published ‘Eligibility Guidelines for Assessing the International Protection Needs of Iraqi Asylum-Seekers’, which stated that many Arab refugees (including Palestinians) “…do not hold valid documentation, limiting their freedom of movement, access to services and putting them at risk of detention and possibly refoulement. As such, in adjudicating the refugee claims of individuals who were previously refugees in Iraq, it should be noted that the current situation in Iraq is such that “effective protection” in the country is generally unavailable.”[17] These guidelines have been all but ignored by the majority of countries.
[edit]Jordan


Palestinian girls stranded near the Iraqi-Jordanian border
Jordan has the largest number of refugees relative to total population in the world, and is host to the highest number of Palestinian refugees under the mandate of the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA). The 1952 Jordanian Constitution does forbid the extradition of ‘political refugees…on account of their political beliefs or their defence of liberty'.[18] Furthermore, the government signed a Memorandum of Understanding with UNHCR in 1998, underlining its agreement to the definition of a refugee and the obligation of non-refoulement.[19] Historically, the Jordanian government has granted full citizenship to the vast majority of Palestinian refugees, while UNRWA administers aid and provides health and education services to those living in refugee camps.[20] Its policies towards Iraqis have been less clear. Currently, the government estimates that 450,00 – 500,000 Iraqis live in Jordan, although only 31,000 of these Iraqis are registered with UNHCR.[19] The regime has followed the principles of Arab hospitality and brotherhood by opening its doors to thousands of Iraqis; yet its policies towards them with regard to provision of basic services have been less clear. Moreover, it has preferred to use ‘visitor’ or ‘guest’ when referring to Iraqis, avoiding the socially and politically loaded term ‘refugee’ and the subsequent need to establish more permanent arrangements, services and solutions that would strain Jordanian infrastructure.[21] Currently, the government estimates that 450,00 – 500,000 Iraqis live in Jordan, although only 31,000 of these Iraqis are registered with UNHCR.[19] The situation for Palestinians from Iraq fleeing to Jordan after 2003 following the invasion of Iraq is yet more difficult. Aside from a few with family connections inside Jordan, the majority of Palestinians were refused entry or free movement inside the country. Thus, many were stranded in No Man’s Land between Iraq and Jordan, or detained in Al-Raweished Camp within Jordan.[22]
[edit]Al Ruweished Camp


Palestinian Iraqi IDP family near Jordanian border
Al Ruweished was located in Eastern Jordan, 60 kilometres from the border with Iraq. Over the years, those living in the camp have included Palestinians from Iraq, Iranian Kurds, Somalis and Sudanese. In December 2003, Angelina Jolie visited the camp by helicopter, and kept a journal of her experiences. She reported that most of the 500 residents of al-Ruweished were Palestinians, and over 100 of them were under the age of 18.[23] Living conditions in the camp were extremely difficult, with soaring temperatures during the summer months, and storms during the harsh winters.[19] The UNHCR and local NGOs provided food and assistance to camp residents. However, most children were unable to access education.[24]
Since 2003, more than a thousand people have been resettled to third countries, including 54 Palestinians who were granted asylum in Canada in November 2006,[25] and 107 Palestinians who were accepted by Brazil in 2007.[26] Later, in November that year, the remaining residents (all of whom were Palestinian) were resettled in the states of São Paulo and Rio Grande do Sul in Brazil. There, they were promised rented accommodation, furniture and material aid for up to two years, as moral support from volunteers in the communities, who were to help them with local integration.[27]
[edit]Syria
There has been a significant Palestinian presence in Syria since the first arrivals in 1948, as well as several hundred thousand Iraqis in recent years.[28] According to a Fafo report in 2007, “Palestinian refugees have been better integrated into Syrian society than in Jordan”[29] Unlike Jordan, Palestinians living in Syria have not been granted citizenship. Aside from Syrian nationality and the right to vote, Palestinians are entitled to “…the same civil rights and services as those enjoyed by local citizens, and are more socially integrated than Palestinian refugees in any other host country.”[30] Similar to Jordan, Syria has not signed the 1951 Convention, but is party to the 1965 Casablanca Protocol for the protection of Palestinian refugees. The 1973 constitution does not allow for the deportation of refugees because of their 'political principles or defence of freedom', although the government does not have a procedure for granting asylum.[31] The Syrian Ministry of Social Affairs also shares a Memorandum of Understanding with UNHCR, allowing for assistance and cooperation with local organizations to provide aid to refugees.[32]
After such a history of providing shelter and services for Palestinian and Iraqi refugees, it is therefore unclear as to why the Syrian government has refused entry to Palestinians coming from Iraq since 2006.[4]
[edit]Al Tanf Camp
Al-Tanf Camp was a makeshift camp located on the Syrian side of the border with Iraq. It was first opened in 2006, when 389 Iraqi-Palestinians were refused entry by the Syrian authorities.[33] UNHCR representatives envisioned that the camp would be open for a matter of weeks, but weeks turned into years, despite unbearable living standards.[34] Numbers within the camp continued to increase, as those Palestinians from Iraq arriving in Syria using forged documents were discovered by the Syrian authorities. During the period from March 2006 until the day of its closure in 2010, it hosted over 1,300 Iraqi-Palestinians.[35]
Living conditions in Al-Tanf were extremely grim, with residents exposed to the harsh climate of the desert.[36] Extreme temperatures, sandstorms, strong winds and devastating[6] were endured by residents, as well as infestations of scorpions and vermin.[34] Outbreaks of fire were also a common occurrence in Al Tanf and other camps, due to the highly flammable canvas tents. A pregnant woman was killed there in January 2009, when the tent she was staying in caught fire.[37]
Some residents of the camp established an amateur television network called Al Tanf Media Group, to draw attention to their suffering, and to occupy younger residents of the camp and to provide them with opportunities to acquire skills. Using a computer and a small digital camera, they were able to produce short documentaries and organize screenings within the camp. These films were distributed over the internet, and to delegations from international organizations visiting the camps.[34]
On February 1, 2010, UNHCR closed the camp and moved the last remaining 60 residents to Al Hol camp, where it was said they would live temporarily before being resettled to third countries.[6]
[edit]Al Hol Camp
Al Hol remains open to this day, and is located in the north-eastern province of Hassakeh around 55 km from the city of Deir Ezzor.,[6] close to the border with Iraq. The camp first opened in 1991, to cope with the influx of Iraqi refugees from the Gulf War. It reopened in 2005 in response to the Palestinians fleeing Iraq. Currently, there are 45 families living in the camp without news of resettlement in the near future.[38] As a result,UNRWA and UNHCR have begun to work with residents of the camp to provide them with more permanent arrangements. Children of the camp attend school with Syrian children in the nearby village of Al Hol, men grow crops to provide additional food, the UNHCR provides basic education, health and recreational facilities within the camp;[38] and vocational training schemes for women have been established by the International Organization of Migration in partnership with the European Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian...stwar_Iraq

اقتباس:هفإن كان هناك ظلم وتعدي طبعا فهومدان بلاشك.

ادانتك لما قاساه الفلسطينيين بالعراق او عدمه ليس مجال بحثنا مجال بحثنا هو هل عانى الفلسطيني من ذيول ايران بالمنطقة ام لا وهذا ما تم اثباته