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سـؤال يحيرنـي... فهل من عاقل يجيبني عليه...؟
مشكلة فلسفية فيها رأيين قد تم مناقشتها منذ عصر اليونان وإلى يومنا هذا وهي شبيهة بالجدل العقيم حول أيهما جاء أولا البيضة أم الدجاجة(طبعا لا البيضة ولا الدجاجة جاءت أولا بل كلهما يفهم في سياق النشوء والإرتقاء)
أصل المادة :
الرأي الأول يقول ان المادةو الحركة قديمة أزليةوهذا الرأي يقول أن الكون المادي يتمدد ثم سيعود وينكمش ثم مرة أخرى سيتمدد وهكذا من الأزل وإلى الأزل وفي هذا الرأي مشكلة عقلية وهي إذا كان الكون هكذا منذ الأزل(في الماضي) فكيف وصلنا إلى هذا الزمن الحاضر ؟!لا يمكن أن يأتي من الأزل لأنه لن يصل إلى الحاضر .وهذا الرأي لا يمكن أن يتصوره عقلنا .
الرأي الثاني يقول أن المادة والحركة جاءت من العدم وهذا أيضا مثل السابق لا يمكن أن يتصوره عقلنا , فكيف للمادة والحركة أن تأتي من العدم أي من لاحركة ولا مادة؟ العدم فاقد وفاقد الشيء لا يعطيه ..قال المؤمنين من أنصار هذه الفكرة ان الله هو المحرك الأول ولكن تبقى المشكلة كما هي فمن أين جاء بالحركة والمادة فهذا الله حقيقة لم يفعل شيء بل لا فرق إن قلنا أنها جاءت من العدم أو من الإله وبالتالي فهو خارج الموضوع .

وأعتقد أن أغلب علماء الفيزياء متوقفين في هذا الأمر لا مع الرأي الأول ولا الثاني بل يعتبرونها قضية فلسفية لا يمكن حسمها .


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