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هل إنجيل لوقا كتاب الله كما يدعى المسيحيون ؟
اقتباس:  الليبرالي   كتب/كتبت  
وكيف أقنع النبي الخالق بأن قومه قادرين على أدائها لخمسة مرات فقط .. واعتبرت فيما بعد ركن من أركان الإسلام غير قابل للنقاش والتعديل .
واقتنع الله بحجة نبيه وسلم بحجته ..
المحترم الليبرالي
اسمح لي أن أصحح بعض الأخطاء الشنيعة التي وقعت بها ، فقولك إن النبي علي أفضل الصلاة والسلام أقنع الله قول يعتبره المسلم كفراً ، ومعاذ الله أن يكون ذلك ، وإنما كان النبي صلى الله عليه يسأل الله التخفيف ، وذلك بصيغة الدعاء والترجي لا بصيغة المناقشة والإقناع الذي تتجنى به علينا ، فكان يقول "يا رب، خفف عنا" ، فخفف الله عدد الصلوات منة منه وتكرما وفضلاً ورحمة ، وليس إقتناعاً كما تزعم سيادتك باطلاً .

اقتباس:  الليبرالي   كتب/كتبت  
وحين سئلت عائشة زوجة النبي وكانت خليلته في تلك الليلة   عما إذا كان قد بارحها أثناء الليل،  جزمت بأنه لم يغادرها لحظة واحدة إذ كان ينام بجانبها وكانت ملتصقة به ..

هذا الكلام من تأليفك واختراعك .


اقتباس:  الليبرالي   كتب/كتبت  
لا أريد التعليق هنا فمثل هذه القصة المثبتة لا تحتاج لتعليق وللأسف يقوم على جزء هام منها قناعة يؤمن بها مئات الملايين من البشر ..
وأنا أقول للأسف على ما تدعيه ، فإن المعراج هو ليس من نوع الأدلة التي تعطى للناس على صدق النبوة ، بل هو من نوع إكرام النبي عليه الصلاة والسلام وتسليته عن أحزانه بسبب إعراض قومه عنه .


اقتباس:  الليبرالي   كتب/كتبت  
هل هذه نوعية البراهين أيها الأخوة التي تريدون البحث عنها ؟
لا يا عزيزي ليست هذه النوعية التي نطلبها ، بل إنك خرجت عن الموضوع ، فليس موضوعنا صدق النبوة من عدمه ، بل الموضوع هو نسبة كتاب إلى الله ..

وأكمل فأقول ، ليست هذه النوعية التي نطلبها من الأدلة ، فإن المعراج لم يحصل أمام الناس ، فلم يشهده غير النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم ، وبالتالي فهو ليس من الأدلة على صدق النبوة للناس ، ولو شئت أن نناقش أدلة النبوة في غير هذا الشريط ، فأهلاً ومرحباً ، فلا نريد الخروج عن الموضوع ، فهذا سيؤدي إلى تخريبه .


اقتباس:  الليبرالي   كتب/كتبت  
الدين ليس مسألة للتفاخر فهو تركة موروثة
تتكلم وكأنك عاصرت نشأت الأديان بنفسك ورأيتها بأم عينك ، هذه نظريتك ، ونحترم رأيك ، ولكن نرفضه ونرده عليك ، لأنه قول بلا برهان ، ولم نؤمن بربنا إلا بيقين مبني على الدليل .




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