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تاريخيا ، الفداء ، او التضحية بالشيء في سبيل موضوع او اله او ملك ، هي من مواضيع قديمة جدا كانت تقوم بها الشعوب قبل مجيء الفكر المسيحي بىلاف السنين . و يكفي ان تطلعون على كتاب فريزر " العصن الذهبي " او كتابه " الفلكلور عند الشعوب " لتجدوا بان اغلب الشعوب البدائية كانت تقدم النذور و الاضاحي( بصورة قسرية ) للآلهة من اجل الحصول على السلام والامان و البركة . و كانت التضحية بالبشر من اهم تلك الاضاحيالتي كانت تحدث في مواسم معينة او في ظروف شديدة الحساسية مما يتطلب دفع ثمنا باهظا للىلهة كي تحل مشكلة او ترد عدوا . و مع تغير الفكر الديني و تغير الرموز المستخدمة و اساليب التضحية ، بدا يظهر اسلوب التضحية الشخصي ( الارادوي ) في سبيل الشعب ، او في مراحل لاحقة ، في سبيل الوطن ، او الامة ، كما تفعل المنظمات الانتحارية في فلسطين و العراق و غيرهما .
في عصر المسيح ، كان هذا الرجل يحمل فكرا ساميا ، يكمن فحواه في انه قادر على محو خطايا الناس عبر المحبة و التسامح . و كان يؤمن بانه اذا ضحى بنفسه من اجلهم ، فهو بذلك يجنبهم شرورا كثيرة ، و بذلك يكون الفادي الاعظم لانه قدم الخير للبشرية جمعاء .

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