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أرجو أن تتفضل و تتكرم و تتنازل و تجيب عن هذه الأسئلة البسيطة جدا ...

- أين تذهب روحك بعد موتك ؟ هل هي في التراب ؟

- ما الذي في التراب ؟

- ما معنى كلمة كليهما ؟

- لو قرأت هذه العبارة (خير لك أن يسرق اطار سيارتك بدلا من أن يتم سرقة سيارتك كلها ) هل يوجد مجنون يمكن أن يقول أن السيارة المذكورة ليست هي التي تحوي الاطار المزمع سرقته ؟

- بالنظر الى هذا النص
24 ويخرجون ويرون جثث الناس الذين عصوا عليّ لان دودهم لا يموت ونارهم لا تطفأ.ويكونون رذالة لكل ذي جسد اشعياء24:66

هل الأرواح جثث ... ؟


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الروح أيها الغلام الساخر تذهب أما الى الفردوس أو الى الهاوية او الحفرة انتظارا ليوم الدينونة

الموجود في التراب هو الجسد المتحلل و بالطبع ليس ثعبانا أقرعا .

كليهما لو كنت قد فهمت تعني الجسد و الروح فالله يهلك الجسد بأن يرجع للتراب الذي خلق منه و هذا أسمه هلاك الجسد و هلاك الروح هو ان تطرد
من رحمة الله ............ هل فهمت أم نوضح أكثر .

أما الآية التي أقتبستها من سفر اشعياء فمحتاجة منك شوية تخيل , عزيزي في اللغة هناك شئ أسمه كناية و رمز , متى نعرف الكلام المجازي من الكلام
الحقيقي ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟

بسيطة جدا نراجع الكلام و نرى هل هناك امكانية لتحقيقه حرفيا ام .

تماما كما يوقل الشاعر : سهرت الليالي أعد النجوم و أغازل القمر .

فهل الشاعر هنا فعلا جلس يعد النجوم واحدة واحدة و يغازل القمر الذي يبعد عنه آلاف الاميال أم هي صورة أستعارية فيها كناية عن مناجاة الحبيب
و السهد و سهر الليالي ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟

نفس الشئ لو راجعته مع الآية : هل يوجد ( دود ) لا يموت ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟ هل يوجد دود خالد ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟

و أذا كان حكم الله على الانسان ان يتحلل جسده و تفارقه الروح و يرجع للتراب الذي خلق منه فمعنى هذا ان جسده انتهى و لن يحس بشئ لا دود
و لا ثعبان أقرع و لا ضغطة قبر تعصره .

أذا كل من يقرأ ( بفهم ) يعرف ان هذه كناية و تعبير و رمز للعذاب الابدي بلا توقف .

النقطة الثانية أن الجسد خلاص انتهى و تحلل فماذا عن الروح ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟ ما هي نوعية عذابها ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟

عذابها أن تطرد من رحمة الله و تهيم بعيدة عن مصدر الحياة خالقها .

يا رب أكون قد اوضحت و ان تكون قد استوعبت

عبد المسيح
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